Who derived Gauss's law for gravity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of Gauss's law for gravity and seeks to identify the individual who first formulated it. Participants explore the relationship between Gauss's law for electrostatics and the law of universal gravitation, considering historical context and references.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions who derived Gauss's law for gravity, noting its similarity to Gauss's law for electric fields.
  • Another participant suggests that it was not Newton who derived it, proposing Gauss as a likely candidate.
  • A further contribution clarifies that Newton died before Gauss's law for electrostatics was published, reinforcing the idea that Gauss may have been the one to derive it.
  • One participant discusses the challenges in confirming Coulomb's law as an inverse square law and its implications for deriving laws of gravity.
  • It is proposed that Gauss likely framed his derivation in a general investigation of geometric properties related to inverse square laws.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that Newton is not the originator of Gauss's law for gravity, with a consensus forming around Gauss as a likely candidate. However, the discussion does not reach a definitive conclusion regarding the first derivation or the availability of references.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the historical context and references for Gauss's law for gravity, as well as the assumptions made about the relationship between Coulomb's law and gravitational laws.

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As the title states, my question is fairly simple. It is fairly well-known that one can derive a law similar to Gauss's law (for electric fields) for gravity, which is essentially equivalent to Newton's law of universal gravitation. But what I was wondering is who actually came up with it? I suppose that it wasn't rocket science, but someone must have been the first one. I have tried to look this up, but the information on Gauss's law for gravity is not very extensive.
 
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I think it was not Newton. Gauss?
 
Yeah no it wasn't Newton, as he died quite a while before Gauss's law for electrostatics was published. I suppose it was probably just Gauss himself yeah, but I'd love to find some actual references for this.
 
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As the title states, my question is fairly simple. It is fairly well-known that one can derive a law similar to Gauss's law (for electric fields) for gravity, which is essentially equivalent to Newton's law of universal gravitation. But what I was wondering is who actually came up with it? I suppose that it wasn't rocket science, but someone must have been the first one.

Coulomb's law is an inverse square law.

The biggest hurdle, I suppose, was to find out whether Coulomb's law was in fact an inverse square law. In planetary mechanics the planets can be treated as point masses, because the distances between the planets are vast. With experiments to put Coulomb's law to the test you don't have that kind of distance, and that complicates matters.

Still, over time scientists became confident that Coulomb's law is in fact an inverse square law. Once you're there it's trivial that any theorem that is valid voor Coulomb's law is valid for the Universal law of gravity, and vice versa.

Most likely Gauss framed his derivation in an abstract manner, casting it as a general investigation of geometric properties of the concept of an inverse square law.
 
Thank you, that is more than satisfactory!
 

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