Who was the true hero behind the Rebel Alliance's victory in Rogue One?

[Noisy Rhysling]

I'll venture this much - if Lucas is not writing any dialogue, that's an improvement right there. The preview has sort of a Dirty Dozen vibe to it, which I like.
But, no, I won't issue a final verdict until I've given it a fair viewing. :)

You could lose your connectivity that way. The Internet Lynch Mob will be obeyed.

 

[Rubidium_71]

Yikes - that's quite the malevolent emoji. But I am undeterred, as you know I always stick to my guns. Besides, I'm barely connected as it is, just a tin can and some wax string.

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

Yikes - that's quite the malevolent emoji. But I am undeterred, as you know I always stick to my guns. Besides, I'm barely connected as it is, just a tin can and some wax string.

I had that one made so I could represent the Internet Lynch Mob. It's really popular.

 

[Rubidium_71]

I'll bet it is, especially these days. Hopefully it does not also represent the audience after viewing Rogue One.

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

I'll bet it is, especially these days. Hopefully it does not also represent the audience after viewing Rogue One.

I hope the force is with us on that.

 

[Khatti]

I'll venture this much - if Lucas is not writing any dialogue, that's an improvement right there.

Yeah, no one is ever going to confuse Lucas with the late Robert Parker or the late Roger Zelazny.

I had that one made so I could represent the Internet Lynch Mob. It's really popular.

I'm worried that after November the real thing might come back into vogue. Now I got to hunt up these emojis for my own, nefarious purposes!

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

Yeah, no one is ever going to confuse Lucas with the late Robert Parker or the late Roger Zelazny.
I'm worried that after November the real thing might come back into vogue. Now I got to hunt up these emojis for my own, nefarious purposes!

http://rationalia.com/z/index.html

 

[Khatti]

@Noisy Rhysling this is hilarious!

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

@Noisy Rhysling this is hilarious!

Some folks don't like smileys, hence the title of the page.

 

[DennisN]

A new trailer:

 

[Rubidium_71]

Great trailer, glad to see more of Madds Mikkelson.

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

Great trailer, glad to see more of Madds Mikkelson.

Love that guy. "Valhalla Rising" was amazing.

 

[Rubidium_71]

Haven't seen Valhalla yet, but Madds did a good Hannibal. Looking forward to seeing him play the villain in Dr. Strange.

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

Haven't seen Valhalla yet, but Madds did a good Hannibal. Looking forward to seeing him play the villain in Dr. Strange.

"Valhalla Rising" is not easy to watch, you keep wondering how the human race ever survived this long.

 

[BillTre]

"Valhalla Rising"

Not Valhalla Rhysling?

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

Not Valhalla Rhysling?

Probably not.

 

[DennisN]

A new trailer (two days ago), looks like we are in for some action...

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Just got back from seeing it! Pretty good! Nice to fill in that gap of the story.

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

Just got back from seeing it! Pretty good! Nice to fill in that gap of the story.

It was slightly confusing that when the SWU got fleshed out there was no mining of it. Disney was aware of the fan base, Lucas wasn't?

 

[arivero]

this is a side-story

they told it was going to be a side story.

 

[RooksAndBooks]

I would give it somewhere between three to four stars. I did think the movie served its purpose well, but I had a few issues with it that slightly ruined it for me.

My five big issues:

Spoiler

1. Saw Gerrera. I didn't think he went out like he should have. He basically died due to the fallout of blast of Jedha, although he did look like he could've boarded a ship. If you have watched the Clone Wars, you will know that he is a resilient, ambitious warrior. He, along with other members of the Onderon militia, took over the city of Iziz and then as a result took over Onderon back from the Separatists. He is not some side character that I felt should have been killed without taking multiple blaster shots. A nit I also have is that his eye color changed, seeming somewhat arbitrarily. The Saw Gerrera in Rogue One had brown eyes. On Onderon, he had green-ish eyes. I thought that his change of eye color was unnecessary, and I thought they should've changed it because they changed Chirrut Îmwe's eyes.
2. Chirrut Îmwe. I thought he was pretty empty (at least compared to the other characters) and was vexing due to his constant reiteration of the phrase, "I am one with the Force, the Force is with me."
3. Settings. At times, the capricious change of setting was overwhelming. Towards the beginning of the movie, it changed the settings more than once in what felt like less than 10 minutes; this included the Ring of Kreffne, Wobani, and so on.
4. Uninspiring soundtrack. Star Wars music is arguably some the best movie music. From masterpieces such as Duel of the Fates to Imperial March, audiences never fail to admire the music of Star Wars. However, the songs in this movie were somewhat uninspiring. It felt as if they just copied the original pieces and changed a few things. Some of the music, in my opinion, was just flat out boring as well. I believe that the music in this movie represents the least of what Star Wars music has to offer.
5. No/little mention of the Geonosians. The Geonosians played a major part in the creation of the Death Star. At the end of Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones, you can see Poggle the Lesser handing the Death Star plans to Count Dooku. It was a shame to me that there was little, if any, mention of them in the movie.

 

[DaveC426913]

The first half was OK. The second half made me happy, seeing all my old friends from 40 years ago: X-Wing, Y-wing, etc.

Spoiler: Some comments

• Looks like they took a page out of Independence Day: The climactic tension centred around ... uploading some data.
• Where were all the Bothans? Many died to bring them that data! I kept waiting to see them appear in the final act.
• I kept wondering why the main characters were not memorable. It wasn't until the end that I realized why. They had to go. They are not in the next movies, which begins about two minutes after this one ends.

 

[phinds]

Just saw it. One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Nice story-line tie-in w/ the death star plans getting to Princess Lea and a good through-line with the fighter pilots towards the end, but basically just boring as all get out.

 

[Rubidium_71]

I liked it. It reminded me a little of the Dirty Dozen. It was good they stuck with the suicide mission dynamic. I saw it twice over holiday break, once with my wife and again with my brother. Both times people in the theater applauded at the end, which was a little surprising. The best part is the last minute or so of the film, I think that is what pleased the crowd. I wouldn't have minded more Sith action beyond the little bit we saw. Maybe a little less of the dandy in his white cape and a little more of Vader.

 

[dkotschessaa]

What a super fun movie for a date night (with my wife of course).

 

[DaveC426913]

The best part is the last minute or so of the film, I think that is what pleased the crowd.

+1

 

[dkotschessaa]

The best part is the last minute or so of the film, I think that is what pleased the crowd.

Spoiler

I saw post Carrie Fisher's death. A few people (including myself) teared up a little. sniffle sniffle

 

[john101]

I saw Star Wars when it came out and apart from the opening visual effects I found it boring. Perhaps the pre release hype is responsible. Since then I've only watched a couple of the others in the franchise. The whole premise seems contrived and forced, to me. The characters cartoonish.

I watched Rogue One last night and

Tarkin and Leia were not convincing. Obviously CGI. The facial expression were wrong and Tarkins voice was not as clipped as Cushing nor the right accent (ditto Vader)

The use of a landscape reminiscent of the tragedy of Vietnam was offputting. Apocalyse Now kept popping into my mind.

Otherwise I think it's better than Star Wars.

 

[DaveC426913]

The whole premise seems contrived and forced, to me. The characters cartoonish.

Yes and yes.

This is classic Space Opera. Different from harder science fiction.

 

[Noisy Rhysling]

It made money, so there will be more.

Off topic: I've heard that Doby had to die because he was a Sith Lord. Comic culture mash-up time?