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The discussion revolves around an integral problem from a calculus textbook, specifically focusing on the evaluation of integrals and the reasoning behind adding certain expressions. Participants express confusion regarding the setup of the problem, particularly the need to evaluate integrals over different intervals and the interpretation of areas under curves.

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  • Participants question why certain integrals are added together and express confusion about the evaluation limits. There is a discussion about the necessity of breaking the evaluation into segments based on the behavior of the functions involved.

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Some participants have offered insights into the reasoning behind the evaluation process and the nature of the functions involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the areas represented by the integrals, but no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the problem.

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Participants note that the formula for area elements changes at specific points, which affects how the integrals are set up. There is also mention of a related question involving rotation about different axes, indicating a broader context of geometric interpretation in calculus.

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Hello, I can't seem to paste this in. So here is the link.
http://www.calcchat.com/book/Calculus-ETF-5e/
It is chapter 7, section 1, question 17.
Why are you adding ∫ [(x+2) +√4 -x] dx + ∫ 2(√4 -x) dx
?
I'm confused for 2 reasons. Why can you not just evaluate from -5 to 4? ( you will see the bounds I don't know how to put them on my integral here)
Why must you evaluate from -5 to 0 then from 0 to 4?
I understand the last term ∫ 2(√4 -x) dx this is 2 times because half is below the x axis.
But the first part...∫ [(x+2) +√4 -x] dx
Why would you add them. I can't seem to visualize why this would be. It seems I would find the area under x+2 then subtract that from the area under √4 -x.
Why not ??
Thanks,
J
 
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Jbreezy said:
Hello, I can't seem to paste this in. So here is the link.
http://www.calcchat.com/book/Calculus-ETF-5e/
It is chapter 7, section 1, question 17.
Why are you adding ∫ [(x+2) +√4 -x] dx + ∫ 2(√4 -x) dx
?
They are really subtracting something. What is the equation of the lower half of that parabola?
Jbreezy said:
I'm confused for 2 reasons. Why can you not just evaluate from -5 to 4? ( you will see the bounds I don't know how to put them on my integral here)
Because the formula for the typical area element changes at 0. Between -5 and 0, the typical area element is (yupper - ylower)Δx. After that, yupper is not a value on that line.
Jbreezy said:
Why must you evaluate from -5 to 0 then from 0 to 4?
I understand the last term ∫ 2(√4 -x) dx this is 2 times because half is below the x axis.
But the first part...∫ [(x+2) +√4 -x] dx
Why would you add them. I can't seem to visualize why this would be. It seems I would find the area under x+2 then subtract that from the area under √4 -x.
Why not ??
Thanks,
J
 
They are really subtracting something. What is the equation of the lower half of that parabola?
Yeah Yeah I see. It is a negative.-

thx
 
Similar question. http://www.calcchat.com/book/Calculus-ETF-5e/
part b they want you to rotate it about the y-axis and in part c about the line x = 3.
I don't understand this difference in writing for part b... 3^2 - (y^2)^2

And in part c they write (3-y)^2 I don't get it.
It is chapter 7 section 2 question 11.
Thanks
 
Seeing that you also started a new thread for this new problem (which is the right thing to do), I am closing this thread.
 

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