Why Am I Missing a Factor in My Differential Equations Solution?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation problem involving the equation y'' - 2y' - 8y = 3e^(4x) - 5x^2. The original poster expresses frustration over missing a specific factor in their solution, particularly (1/12)e^(4x), while attempting to find the particular solution using methods such as undetermined coefficients and variation of parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of undetermined coefficients and suggest separating the right-hand terms to find particular solutions individually. There is a question about the origin of the missing factor and whether it relates to the homogeneous solution or initial conditions.

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Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to finding particular solutions, with suggestions to tackle each term separately. The original poster has attempted various methods but remains uncertain about the missing factor. One participant has reported success using variation of parameters, indicating a potential direction for others.

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There is a mention of the original poster's struggle over an extended period, indicating a possible homework constraint. The discussion also touches on the relationship between the homogeneous and particular solutions, raising questions about assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Ive been working on this problem for way too long and i can get it almost right except I am missing a factor of (1/12)e^4x and for the life of me i can't figure out why. I've been mostly trying to use the methode of undeermined coefficients to no luck and so have also tried variation of parameters and still something is not going right. I have run the equation through my 89 and i have the answer i just can't seem to get it by hand.


Homework Equations


y''-2y'-8y=3*e^(4x)-5x^2
complimentary solution=yc=C1*e^(4x)+C28*e^(-2x)
as for finding the particular solution(yp) i think this is where my problem is.

the actual solution as given by my ti 89 is y=((x/2)
+C1-(1/12))*e^(4x)+C2*e^(-2x)+(5x^2)/8-(5x)/16+15/64

The Attempt at a Solution


using yp=Axe^(4x) +Bx^2+Cx+d i got it all right except that I am missing the (1/12)*e^4x value and I've tried to many varriations to list them all here but i have litterally spent hours on this and i probally should have posted this back when i was still at only 3 hours worth of time into it but I am well beyond that now and its time for a little rest so i can wake up and keep hammering at this one till i get it.
 
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Just a word of advice.
When dealing with undetermined co-efficients, you'd probably find it best to, rather than tackle both right hand terms (3e^(4x) - 5x^2) at the same time, deal with them as two separate problems; that is, guess their particular solution for:
y'' - 2y' - 8y = 3e^(4x)
Then do the same for y'' - 2y' - 8y = -5x^2 and add up your solutions.
However, it seems like that's not the problem you're having; when you say you're missing this "1/12 e^4x", that doesn't quite add up, since 1/12 e^4x contributes to the homogeneous solution.
That is, unless you're given some initial conditions you're not telling us about? ;)
 
thanks for the advice Psuedo as far as seperating the particular solution I've tried that and recived the same results. As for the (1/12)*e^(4x) I am mostly sure that is part of the particular solution since the homogeneous solution is just C2e^4x +C1e^(-2x)
 
tried this probleb again for the 10000th and i finally got the answer using variation of parameters.
 

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