Why are absorption spectra continuous?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of absorption spectra, particularly why they are often continuous rather than solely consisting of discrete lines. Participants explore concepts related to energy levels, the behavior of different materials, and the interpretation of spectral data.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the continuous nature of absorption spectra, believing that absorption should only occur at specific wavelengths corresponding to discrete energy levels.
  • Another participant notes that the material in question affects the absorption spectrum, stating that gases typically exhibit discrete absorption spectra while solids and liquids may show absorption bands due to closely spaced energy states.
  • Some participants clarify that the continuous spectrum refers to the light source, with absorption lines representing missing wavelengths in that spectrum.
  • There is a suggestion that the intensity of the source spectrum affects the visibility of absorption lines, particularly at the extremes of the spectrum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that gases have discrete absorption spectra, while solids and liquids may have continuous bands. However, there is no consensus on the implications of these differences or the interpretation of spectral data.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the influence of material properties on absorption spectra and the importance of understanding the source spectrum when interpreting absorption lines. There are unresolved questions about the behavior of absorption beyond certain wavelengths.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying spectroscopy, material science, or anyone seeking to understand the complexities of absorption spectra in different states of matter.

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It doesn't make sense to me that absorption spectra are (mostly) continuous.
Here are my beliefs. Please tell me which piece/pieces is a/are misconception(s).

1) When light is absorbed, the energy is used to excite an electron to some discrete energy level.
2) To get to this discrete energy level a discrete amount amount of energy must be absorbed
3) Only certain quantities of energy can be absorbed. Slightly too much or slightly too little energy would hypothetically excite an electron to a non-integer state, which is impossible.
4) The energy of each photon determines it's wavelength and thus its color.

Therefore,
5) An absorption spectrum should only consist of the specific wavelengths which correspond to the possible discrete energy levels that an electron can jump up when absorbing the energy

ex.)
n=1 → n=2 Corresponds to ONE specific wavelength
n=3 → n=7 Corresponds to ONE OTHER specific wavelength

I understand that this sort of reasoning is true in regards to emission spectra. I just don't understand why it's different. Thank you for your help.
 
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That depends on the material.
Gases usually have a discrete absorption spectrum.
Solids and liquids often have absorption bands because they have so many states so close together that they form bands. The proximity of other atoms influences the energy levels.
 
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mfb said:
Gases usually have a discrete absorption spectrum.

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Cardinalmont said:
Clearly a discrete absorption spectrum. The continuous spectrum is the spectrum being passed through the gas. The absorption is the missing wavelengths.
 
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Ahaha I can't believe I've been misunderstanding this for so many years! Thank you all for pointing this out. I find solace in knowing that my understanding of the physics was correct, just not my understanding of the image.
 
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Cardinalmont said:
Ahaha I can't believe I've been misunderstanding this for so many years! Thank you all for pointing this out. I find solace in knowing that my understanding of the physics was correct, just not my understanding of the image.
I believe this is one of those aha-moments :wink:
It is obvious once you know how to think about it but if you start with the wrong interpretation it can be difficult to drop it unless it is pointed out.
 
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Out past 700nm is lower than all five absorption lines. Does that mean it absorbs even more out past 700 nm?
 
Savid said:
Out past 700nm is lower than all five absorption lines. Does that mean it absorbs even more out past 700 nm?
I can't understand what you are implying here. The continuous spectrum is the spectrum of the source. The absorption lines are 'holes' in the source spectrum. They are only visible in the image where the original spectral level is high enough. There is much less energy at either ends of the black body radiation curve and the image just doesn't show it. With the right equipment, you could identify those lines too. IR absorption line spectra are 'a thing'.
 
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Savid said:
Out past 700nm is lower than all five absorption lines. Does that mean it absorbs even more out past 700 nm?
No. It means that the source spectrum has a low intensity there. An absorption line is a discrete frequency where the medium the light is passing through absorbs the light.
 

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