Why Are Different Distances Used in Fluid Dynamics Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around fluid dynamics calculations related to the height of water in a tank and the distances used in these calculations. Participants are examining the reasoning behind using specific distances (2m and 0.6m) instead of a single height measurement (0.8m) in the context of tank orientation.

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  • Participants are questioning the choice of distances used for calculating zs values and whether these should be based on the height of the tank or the distances between the tank's walls. There are discussions about the relevance of these distances to the water's behavior in the tank.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the reasoning behind the distances used in the calculations. Some participants have expressed understanding of the concepts, while others are still seeking clarification on the distinctions between different orientations of the tank and how they affect the calculations.

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Participants are referencing specific figures and orientations of the tank, indicating that visual aids may be necessary for a complete understanding of the problem setup. There is also a mention of the relevance of the distances to whether water will pour out of the tank.

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in the second picturre, why the zs1 and zs2 is calculated by using 2m and 0.6m respectively ? it should be 0.8m , am i right ? what's the purpose of the author to use 2m and 0.6m ?

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goldfish9776 said:

Homework Statement


in the second picturre, why the zs1 and zs2 is calculated by using 2m and 0.6m respectively ? it should be 0.8m , am i right ? what's the purpose of the author to use 2m and 0.6m ?
0.8m is the height of the tank. The author is comparing two orientations of the tank. In one orientation the front-to-back distance is 2m, in the other it is 0.6m. The zs values are the corresponding extra heights of the water, so one calculation uses 2m, while the other uses 0.6m.
 
haruspex said:
0.8m is the height of the tank. The author is comparing two orientations of the tank. In one orientation the front-to-back distance is 2m, in the other it is 0.6m. The zs values are the corresponding extra heights of the water, so one calculation uses 2m, while the other uses 0.6m.
why not we use 0.8m instead of 2m and 0.6m to get zs? the zs is in the same direction as 0.8m , right ?
 
haruspex said:
0.8m is the height of the tank. The author is comparing two orientations of the tank. In one orientation the front-to-back distance is 2m, in the other it is 0.6m. The zs values are the corresponding extra heights of the water, so one calculation uses 2m, while the other uses 0.6m.
can you please sketch out the 3d diagram , so that i can understand better
 
goldfish9776 said:
why not we use 0.8m instead of 2m and 0.6m to get zs? the zs is in the same direction as 0.8m , right ?
Yes, but that is only relevant to the question whether or not the water pours out of the tank: whether zs< 0.8 or zs> 0.8.
To calculate the actual increase in the height of the water on the back wall you need to use the distance from front wall to back wall. And that depends upon the orientation of the tank.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Yes, but that is only relevant to the question whether or not the water pours out of the tank: whether zs< 0.8 or zs> 0.8.
To calculate the actual increase in the height of the water on the back wall you need to use the distance from front wall to back wall. And that depends upon the orientation of the tank.
i think i get the idea already . why the distance is distance between the front and back wall ? Isn't the dstance= distance between the right and left wall as shown in the figure 3-52 ?
 
In which direction is this box moving? How do you distinguish between "front and back" and "side to side"?
 
goldfish9776 said:
i think i get the idea already . why the distance is distance between the front and back wall ? Isn't the dstance= distance between the right and left wall as shown in the figure 3-52 ?
I was using front-to-back in reference to the direction of movement. In one scenario, front-to-back is 2m (and the 0.6m doesn't matter); in the other it's the other way around.
 
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