Why Are My Calculations for Electrical Resistance and Current Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around calculations related to electrical resistance and current, specifically comparing the resistance of copper and tungsten wires and analyzing the performance of an immersion heater in a car. The subject area includes concepts from electrical engineering and thermodynamics.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the resistance of copper and tungsten wires using resistivity and area formulas, while also analyzing the current drawn by an immersion heater based on heat transfer principles. Participants question the calculations and suggest re-evaluating the area and resistivity values used.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's calculations, pointing out potential errors and encouraging a re-examination of the formulas and values used. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of equations and the importance of working with symbols.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the area calculations for the wires and the specific heat calculations for the immersion heater. The original poster expresses uncertainty about discrepancies in their results compared to expected values.

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I did all the word but my answers are not matching my books?

1) Can a 2.5 mm-diameter copper wire have the same resistance as a tungsten wire of the same length? Give numerical detials. Answer, yes, 4.6 mm

Here is what I did:
( p = resistivity )

R = p(L/A) so I set R(Cu) = R(tug) and since L is the same it cancels out.

Area = 1/2pie2^2 ---> Cu area = (.5)(3.14)(1.25mm) ---> A = .393 mm

So p(A) = p(A) ---> (1.68 x 10^-8)(.393 mm) = (5.6 x 10^-8)(A)
A = .1179 mm

therefore diameter would be... .1179 mm = 2(pie)r^2
r = .2729 mm which mean diameter = .546 mm... so what did I do incorrect?

2) A small immersion heater can be used in a car to heat a cup of water. If the heater can heat 120 mL of water from 25C to 95 C in 8.0 minutes, (a) How much current does it draw from the car's 12 V battery, (b) What is the resistance? Assume the manufacturer's clain of 60% effciency. Answers: 10 A, 1.2 Olhms

What I did...

Used specific heat equation ---> Q = mcT where I changed 120 mL of water into .120 kg ---> Q = (.120 kg)(4185 J/kg C)(95C-25C)
Q = 35154 J

Then I used the equation PE = 1/2Q(where Q is the charger)V
35151 J = (.5)(Q)(12 V)
Q = 5859 C

Finally I used I(current) = Q/T(time) ---> 5859C/480s
I = 12 A

And for resistance I used V/I = R ---> 12 V/12 A = 1 Olhm

I am off my two units for some odd reason in my current and off by .2 in my resistance. Did I make a mistake?
 
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After sorting through your work, I see several things wrong. What is the area of a circle? Where did you get the number for the area of the copper? Re examine your work you have make some very basic errors.

It is essential that you make a habit of working with symbols until you have isolated the parameter you need a number for. In this case you have.

[tex]R = \frac {\rho L} A[/tex]

I will use a T subscript for Tungsten and a C subscript for copper.

[tex]R_T = R_C[/tex]

so

[tex]\frac {\rho_T L_T} {A_T} = {\frac {\rho_C L_C} {A_C}[/tex]

further you are given that
[tex]L_T = L_C[/tex]

so now we have:
[tex]\frac {\rho_T } {A_T} = \frac {\rho_C } {A_C}[/tex]

[tex]A_T = \frac {\rho_C } { \rho_T A_C }[/tex]

Now can you complete the problem in this same manner until you have isolated the radius of the tungsten?

I have found that it is often necessary to repeat calculations multiple times. Do it until you can get the same answer several times in a row.
 
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That does stil not work. Area of copper will be 4.91 mm^2. If you then use.

[tex]A_T = \frac {\rho_C } { \rho_T A_C }[/tex]

You get Area of T = .0611

and then if we use the equation of a circle for this area we get d = .27 mm.
 
Now I see. You actually manipulated the equation wrong. The Area of T is equal to AcPt/Pc. That gives the correct answer. Thanks for a good try though.

Does number two look okay?
 

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