Why Are My Half-Adder Outputs Always Zero?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting issues with a half-adder circuit using CD4007UBE chips. Participants explore the reasons for unexpected output behavior, including outputs remaining zero and the inversion of outputs. The scope includes practical circuit design, troubleshooting, and the use of logic gates.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that their half-adder outputs are always zero despite using function generators for inputs and simulating the circuit successfully.
  • Another participant requests more detailed schematics and notes missing pin definitions and ground connections in the attachments, suggesting these could be critical for troubleshooting.
  • A participant mentions that disconnecting the supply voltage allows the outputs to work correctly, indicating a potential issue with power supply connections.
  • One participant successfully gets the half-adder working using an XOR transmission gate instead of the NAND gate configuration, expressing confusion about the previous failure.
  • Another participant advises testing individual gates before connecting them into a more complex circuit to ensure they function correctly.
  • Some participants note that others in a lab setting experienced similar issues with the XOR design using four NAND gates, suggesting a broader problem with that configuration.
  • A later reply humorously suggests that the logic chips may have been incorrectly wired internally, providing a light-hearted explanation for the persistent issues faced by multiple users.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the cause of the issues, with some attributing it to power supply problems while others suggest potential wiring errors in the chips themselves. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness of the NAND gate configuration for the XOR function.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include missing assumptions about the circuit design, potential dependence on specific configurations of the CD4007 chips, and unresolved issues related to the power supply connections.

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I have an issue with the outputs from a half-adder. I am using three CD4007UBE chips and the outputs always stay at zero. I simulated using a model for the CD4007, and it worked without any issues. However, the actual circuit's outputs remain zero for every input.

The input signals are A and B. Each is connected to a separate function generator with a 5V square wave (5V high, 0V low). I have adjusted the frequencies and no matter what, the outputs are always zero. I noticed if I disconnect the wire connecting PIN 1 from x1 and PIN 5 from x2, the output C works.

I heard from some that it's not possible to use only three chips for this, since I have four NAND gates and an inverter (18 total transistors). I don't see why it would not work with three, if this is the case.

The circuit diagram is attached, as well as the model I'm using for the CD4007UB.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

EDIT: I modified the circuit and used four chips instead of three. Now, the C output is working correctly, but S is not. The S output is inverting whatever C is (so they're opposite) for some reason. Schematic is attached.
 

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I've spent some time looking over your post and attachments, but so far I'm not able to help much.

Could you please post schematics of what you are trying to do with those 4007 ICs? It would be best if you could post the logic schematic first, and then how you are trying to use those totem-pole CMOS transistor ICs to implement the logic schematic.

And there are pin definitions missing on your attachments. There are no ground connections, and no external connections for the totem pole component CMOS transistors. A more complete definition of what you are doing would help us to help you.
 
The logic diagram is attached. I made the four NAND gates using four 4007s and then the inverter uses the first 4007 (pins 9, 10, 11, 12). Someone else made the circuit using five NAND gates and they have the same issue (S output is the inverted C output).

I also found a top view of the 4007 with what each pin is (attached).

EDIT: If I disconnect the supply voltage (VDD), both outputs work correctly.
 

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I managed to get the half adder working, but I used the xor transmission gate. I still have no idea why the xor using four nand gates did not work.
 
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When you are faced with ICs that you are unfamiliar with, you should first test individual gates by monitoring input and output as you apply various test inputs. Only when you are satisfied they are working and you understand them, should you connect multiple gates into something more complex.

It sounds like you didn't have the power supply correctly connected, or switched on, or something.
 
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I did all that, but still no go. It's odd that I wasn't the only one that could not get the design for the xor using 4 nand gates working (was a lab). They had the same problems.
 
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I did all that, but still no go. It's odd that I wasn't the only one that could not get the design for the xor using 4 nand gates working (was a lab). They had the same problems.
Okay, here's a face-saving explanation which allows everyone to walk away from the situation with dignity intact: the lab had a batch of logic chips that inside the package were wired to the wrong pins. :wink:
 

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