Why Are There More Energy Levels in Silicon's 3p4p Configuration Than in 3p²?

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The discussion revolves around the electronic configurations of silicon, specifically comparing the 3p² and 3p4p configurations. Participants are exploring the differences in the number of energy levels, L, S, and J levels associated with these configurations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the Pauli exclusion principle on the allowed quantum states for the 3p² configuration compared to the 3p4p configuration. There is an exploration of how the variations in magnetic quantum numbers (M_l) and spin quantum numbers (M_s) contribute to the number of available states.

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Some participants are affirming each other's understanding of the differences in energy levels, while also questioning the extent of the increase in available states in the excited configuration. Guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the restrictions imposed by the Pauli principle.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding quantum numbers and the implications of electron configurations in different energy states. Participants are considering how these factors influence the overall understanding of silicon's electronic structure.

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Homework Statement


Silicon has the configuration [Mg] ##3p^2##.
Explain why there are more L, S, J levels for the ##3p4p## configuration
than in the ##3p^2## configuration.

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My thought is because in the ##3p^2## subshell you have less variations of ##M_l## and ##M_s## because both electrons cannot have the same quantum numbers, wheres with the ##3p4p## level, they could both have ##M_l=+1## and ##M_s=+1## because the ##n## the principle quantum number is different?
 
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Matt atkinson said:
My thought is because in the ##3p^2## subshell you have less variations of ##M_l## and ##M_s## because both electrons cannot have the same quantum numbers, wheres with the ##3p4p## level, they could both have ##M_l=+1## and ##M_s=+1## because the ##n## the principle quantum number is different?
You're on the right track. But there are more states than just the one you cited (##M_l=+1## and ##M_s=+1##).
 
Yes, i understand that there would twice (?) as many states in the excited level because the electrons would be free to have any ##m_l## or ##m_s##, but the states for the ##3p^2## level are restricted by the Pauli principle.
 
Matt atkinson said:
Yes, i understand that there would twice (?) as many states in the excited level because the electrons would be free to have any ##m_l## or ##m_s##, but the states for the ##3p^2## level are restricted by the Pauli principle.
Not twice, because it is only the states where the two electrons have the same spin in the same orbital that have to be discarted. But I think you get the idea.
 
Ah okay thankyou!
 

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