Why are Topological Insulators Called Topological?

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The discussion centers around the concept of topological insulators, specifically exploring why they are termed "topological" and the role of topology in their properties. Participants delve into theoretical aspects, mathematical frameworks, and suggest resources for further understanding, including research papers and books.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that topological insulators can be classified using homotopy classes of mappings and exhibit semi-protected edge states with topological characteristics.
  • There is mention of the boundary action of a 3D topological insulator potentially containing a topological Chern-Simons term.
  • Some participants inquire about resources to understand the phenomenon better, indicating a need for both physical and mathematical insights.
  • One participant suggests starting with the TKNN number in time-reversal breaking topological insulators, linking it to the first Chern number of a U(1) principal bundle.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for papers that provide a pathway to understanding the topology of topological insulators, indicating a preference for resources that balance mathematical rigor with physical insight.
  • There are discussions about the importance of understanding topology, differential geometry, and algebraic topology as essential tools for physicists.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of topology in understanding topological insulators, but there is no consensus on the specific resources or pathways to follow for learning. Multiple competing views on the best approach to understanding the topic remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their mathematical background, which may limit their understanding of the discussed concepts. There are references to specific papers that may contain varying levels of mathematical detail, but no consensus on which is most appropriate for beginners.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for physics students and researchers interested in the theoretical and mathematical foundations of topological insulators, as well as those seeking guidance on relevant literature in the field.

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why are topological insulators called TOPOLOGICAL insulators?
what factor of topology apperas in the phenomenon
 
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Hi tayyaba aftab,

Here are some reasons: Topological insulators may be classified in terms of homotopy classes of mappings, often from the Brillouin zone to some suitable space of gapped Hamiltonians. Also, these systems have semi-protected edge states which have a topological character. For example, the boundary action of a 3 dimensional topological insulator may contain a topological Chern-Simons term. Topological defects in these materials may also carry interesting quantum numbers.
 
dear physics monkey
can u please suggest some research paper or book to understand the phenomenon.
 
Try this one for starters:

 
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If you want to understand how topology comes in, I recommend you to start with the so called TKNN number in the time-reversal breaking topological insulators (such as Integer Quantum Hall Effect). Mathematically speaking, this is nothing but the first Chern number of a U(1) principal bundle on a Torus (if you haven't studied fiber bundles, don't worry you can go on without it).

For an accessible and physically appealing introduction see http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WB1-4DF4YV5-XT&_user=10&_coverDate=04%2F01%2F1985&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=862b779c8a126c90aa172210416526a3".

The ideas behind the new time-reversal invariant topological insulators are similar, though more complicated. Also take a look at http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.1602" . (There are many review papers, I can cite more if you want).
 
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what is z2 topological order?
@ element 4 can u please recommend something to read?
i am unable to get the idea of it:(
 
Hi tayyaba aftab

I can try to find some relevant papers for you. But the question is which aspects are you interested in, the basic physical ones or the more mathematical ones? And are you familiar with some basic notions in Lie group theory, differential geometry/topology and algebraic topology? Or would you avoid such papers?
And did you read the Kohmoto paper and got an idea of how the first Chern number came into the picture? This is the easiest way to get an feeling for the z_2 number.

In you are more interested in the physical consequences of the z_2 order, you should read completely different kind of papers.

We cannot help you unless you give some more information about what you are interested in.
 
thanku
yah i read kohomoto paper and got an idea of chern numbers
i am physics student so don't have much knowledge of topology and maths
but as my work is based on theoretical research i have to do some basic mathematics:(
i want papers with more physical insight but mathematics too.
and i don't have idea of Lie group theory, differential geometry/topology and algebraic topology:(

now please suggest some papers:(

thanking you
tayyaba aftab
 
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I strongly suggest becoming educated about topology --- differential geometry and algebraic topology. You don't need to understand them like a mathematician --- just like you don't need to understand numbers as far as number theory, but you need to be able to do arithmetic. These tools are going to become increasingly a standard part of a physicist's mathematical toolbox.
 
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thnx to all:)
i actually want to know a pathway which lead me towards understanding topology of topological insulators.and i don't know which path to follow:(

thats why i am asking for papers so that they can lead me towards my ultimate goal.
i have read http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.1602
i want some paper more mathematical than this paper
 
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