Why aren't hybrids used more often in spaceflight?

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The discussion revolves around the use of hybrid rocket engines in spaceflight, comparing them with solid and liquid rocket engines. Participants explore the advantages and limitations of hybrid systems, including energy efficiency, safety, and technical complexity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that hybrid engines could balance energy requirements, duration, and complexity, potentially offering advantages over pure solid or liquid rockets.
  • One participant notes that pure solids have limited duration due to mass and burn rate, typically providing high thrust but low specific impulse (Isp).
  • Another participant points out that pure liquid engines require pressurized or cryogenic storage, which adds to the system's mass and complexity.
  • Hybrids, which can use liquid oxidizers with solid fuels, may be safer in certain applications, but their overall utility might be limited.
  • There is a suggestion that hybrids do not necessarily provide the greatest specific energy compared to other systems, such as LOX/LH2 or LOX/kerosene.
  • A reference is made to Scaled Composites's SpaceShipOne, which utilizes a hybrid rocket but is limited to suborbital flight.
  • Participants express that going orbital presents different challenges compared to suborbital or hypersonic flight.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on why hybrids are not more widely used in spaceflight, with multiple competing views on their advantages and limitations remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the specific energy of hybrid systems compared to other propulsion types, as well as unresolved questions about their application in different flight regimes.

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What do you guys think about hybrid rocket engines compared with other the other kinds? What are the advantages of using one as opposed to a pure solid or liquid rocket?
 
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One has to balance the energy requirements, duration, and complexity (and mass) of the fuel system.

Pure solids (fuel and oxidizer are intimately mixed) and the duration is limited by the mass of material and burn rate. They are generally high thrust, low Isp.

Pure liquid requires pressurized and possibly cryogenic storage, which adds to the fixed mass, as well as propellant mass.

Hybrids liquid(oxidizer)-solid(fuel), air(oxidzer)-solid(fuel) are probably desirable where safety is an issue. Liquid hydrogen is problematic and requires a pretty secure storage and handling system. I suspect hybrids have limited application.


The figure of merit for a propuslion system is the kW(thrust) / kg (mass of system) - a kind of specific propulsive energy.

Basically the goal is to minimize mass and maximize energy, but in doing so, one pushes the materials closer to their technical (physical) limits, i.e. decreased margin to failure.
 
So it is to get the most energy per mass out of it and reduce costs? If so why aren't hybrids used more today?
 
aquitaine said:
So it is to get the most energy per mass out of it and reduce costs? If so why aren't hybrids used more today?
Hybrids don't necessarily have the greatest specific energy.

They are relatively low tech compared to say a LOX/LH2 or LOX/kerosine systems.

Scaled Composites's SpaceShipOne uses a hybrid rocket - Nitrous Oxide oxidizes passes through a solid rocket motor.
http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/data_sheets/html/ox_tank.htm

SSOne only goes suborbital and then it glides after burnout out.

Going orbital is something entirely different, as is going supersonic like the SR-71 or X-15, or hypersonic.
 
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