Why creep is a function of Time?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the phenomenon of creep in materials, specifically why creep is a function of time even under constant load and temperature. Participants explore the microscopic mechanisms that contribute to this behavior, including diffusion and dislocation movement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the presence of microscopic amorphous regions in materials may allow for deformation similar to fluids, contributing to creep.
  • Others mention that different mechanisms, such as diffusion creep and dislocation creep, play roles in the creep process, but the connection to time remains unclear for some.
  • A participant questions why diffusion continues at constant temperature, suggesting that diffusion should stop once a certain temperature is reached, yet creep persists.
  • Another participant explains that diffusion creep involves the flow of vacancies and interstitials, indicating that the movement of atoms is influenced by applied stress and requires time for elongation to occur.
  • Some participants express confusion about the role of activation energy in atomic movement to vacancy sites when conditions are uniform.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mechanisms of creep or the relationship between time and deformation. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the underlying processes.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific material properties and the complexity of the mechanisms involved in creep, which may not be fully understood or agreed upon by participants.

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Hi all,
As suggested by the title, i wanted to know as to why creep is a function of time. Since for any component the load and temperature are constant, still it creeps. What happens there at microscopic level? Why does the solid component continues to deform slowly under constant load and temperature?

Thanks
 
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koolraj09 said:
Hi all,
As suggested by the title, i wanted to know as to why creep is a function of time. Since for any component the load and temperature are constant, still it creeps. What happens there at microscopic level? Why does the solid component continues to deform slowly under constant load and temperature?

Thanks
The solid may not be fully crystalline, and may contain microscopic amorphous regions that are capable of deforming like fluids.
 
Thanks for the response.
I am not able to connect the deformation w.r.t time due to these mechanisms. Say for example, the diffusion creep. In this, the diffusion process is a function of temperature. At any particular temperature, the diffusion should occur and then stop. Why does it continue at constant temperature and thus make a material deform as a function of time? Similarly if we consider dislocation creep, we don't increase the stress, then what makes the dislocation to further move around? After we reach a particular load and temperature, these things have no reason (from my perspective, currently) to move and make the material deform continuously w.r.t time.
 
koolraj09 said:
Thanks for the response.
I am not able to connect the deformation w.r.t time due to these mechanisms. Say for example, the diffusion creep. In this, the diffusion process is a function of temperature. At any particular temperature, the diffusion should occur and then stop. Why does it continue at constant temperature and thus make a material deform as a function of time? Similarly if we consider dislocation creep, we don't increase the stress, then what makes the dislocation to further move around? After we reach a particular load and temperature, these things have no reason (from my perspective, currently) to move and make the material deform continuously w.r.t time.

Hi
Diffusion Creep involves the flow of vacancies and interstitials through a crystal under the influence of applied stress. A tensile stress increases the separation of atoms on grain boundaries that are normal to the stress axis, and the Poisson contraction decreases the separation of atoms on grain boundaries that are parallel to the stress axis. The result is a driving force for diffusional transport of atoms from grain boundaries parallel to the tensile stress to those normal to the tensile stress (there is a flow of vacancies in the opposite direction). Such diffusion produces a plastic elongation.

Diffusion not only needs temperature, but also needs time. As you may know the diffusion distance is proportional to √Dt, where D is the diffusion coefficient. In the diffusion creep, as I described above, atoms should travel the required distance to produce elongation.

Similarly, other creep mechanisms also need time. In fact, creep is an "anelastic effect".
 
Hi materials,
Thanks for your response. I understood that diffusion is a function of time.
Secondly, atoms have to cross the activation energy to go to the vacancy site. But if the temperature and stress are uniform which is how the creep is defined, they why does an atom move to the vacancy?
 
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