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The discussion centers around an email received by an individual that pressured them to support the Republican Party through donations, which they found confrontational and manipulative. The email, attributed to Ken Mehlman of the Republican National Committee, emphasizes the importance of grassroots support for upcoming elections and offers incentives for donations, such as a mousepad. Participants in the discussion express skepticism about the email's intent, questioning whether it truly reflects the Republican Party or if it could be a scam. Some argue that the email is typical of political fundraising tactics and not necessarily bullying, while others criticize the manipulative nature of such communications. The conversation touches on broader themes of political discontent, the effectiveness of democracy, and the perception of partisan propaganda. Overall, the thread highlights frustrations with aggressive fundraising strategies and the emotional responses they provoke among recipients.
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I received an email that tried to bully me into supporting the Republican party by donating money. They also addressed it to my dad, who is not very supportive of any Republican agendas or stances. Creepy email anyhow. Never been so immediately accosted by such intense propaganda. I don't want to spark debate about this, just a prime example of spam email. Feel free to move it if it needs to be moved.

Here it is:

Dear Ronald ,

Campaigns are a marathon, not a sprint. There are 188 days until Election Day, but right now, thousands of dedicated staff and volunteers nationwide are working around the clock, building our party precinct-by-precinct, day-by-day, moving us closer to victory. Sign Up Today

It's easy to understand the rush of grassroots energy and support when Election Day is just a few days away. But supporting the hard work that's happening TODAY - laying the groundwork for victory and helping retain our majorities is even more important.

Now, we're making it easier than ever for you to support this effort through Grow Our Party Funds.

Grow Our Party Funds are a brand new opportunity to invest in building our party for the long haul through a small, automatic monthly contribution. Whether you can give $50, $25, $10, or even $5, you will ensure that our hardworking organizers on the ground have the support they need whether we are five weeks from election day or five months.

And if you make a Grow Our Party Funds monthly donation of just $25 or more, you'll receive this free "I am Proud Bush is my President" mousepad. With a commitment of $50 or more, you'll get two - one for you and one for a friend.

Since the beginning of political parties in this country, party chairmen have told you that the next election is the most important in your lifetime. Every election can't be the most important. But sometimes we do find ourselves at a crossroads.

In the 1940s, when we first confronted imperial communism[/Color], election choices defined how America defended freedom for a generation.

In the 1960s, when we redeemed our Constitution's promise by protecting civil rights[/Color], election choices expanded freedom to cover all Americans.

In the 1980s, when we won the cold war, election choices exported freedom to tens of millions across the globe.[/color]

This year, we face another momentous choice. Fight and defeat the terrorists, or retreat from the central front in the War on Terror. Live up to our calling as Americans to stand for freedom, or choose Democrats, who have been clear that they will censure and impeach the President if they win back Congress.[/color]

Your investment in Grow Our Party Funds today will keep our party fighting for these core principles of freedom long beyond this election. What's the best way to build support for our Party in 2006 and into 2008? You've just found it.

Ken Mehlman
Chairman, Republican National Committee

P.S. The energetic staff and volunteers who are working to win this election on the ground are amazing -- every single one. Support their work with Grow Our Party Funds for $50, $25, or $10, or even $5. And remember: a monthly contribution of $25 will get you this free mousepad, as a symbol of your commitment, and our appreciation.

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Bully? Hardly. Intense propaganda? Not even. I think you have some distorted partisan perceptions. That said, spam mailings asking for donations are assinine, you'd think they'd want to be better than telemarketers at least.
 
Are you sure it's the republican party that's sending you emails? Are you sure it isn't someone that's trying to make themseleves look like the republicans to steal your money?
 
scott1 said:
Are you sure it's the republican party that's sending you emails? Are you sure it isn't someone that's trying to make themseleves look like the republicans to steal your money?

could be. The link to the GOP sounded just the same though. Either way would be stealing my money.
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
I'll tell you why.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2006/05/11/bushs-approval-ratings/

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=665

AAAAAAAHAHAHahahahahaha, 29%. The people have spoken.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I hope they boot him out and not let him finish his term.

As John Mclaughlin says,

BYE BYEEEEE!


It's retarded that the majority of citizens disapprove of his performance, yet we can't get him out of office. What's the point of complaining if it doesn't change anything?
 
from the second link:

Consistent with last month’s survey findings, women are more likely than men to be pessimistic about the direction of the country.

translation: women are more perceptive and realistic:wink:
 
0TheSwerve0 said:
It's retarded that the majority of citizens disapprove of his performance, yet we can't get him out of office. What's the point of complaining if it doesn't change anything?


Funny, the Democrats were saying the exact opposite when the people fired and forcibly removed Gray Davis by a recall election. "Oh its bad for the state". "We shouldn't cut him short like that". "The multi-million dollar special election will be so expensive" (compared to davis's multi-billion dollar budget deficit).Any California democrats wanting a way to remove Bush short of impeachment have no credibility. Unless, miraculously, they have a brain and don't just tow the party line.
 
I think these are just problems inherent in nation-states, so I'm not surprised by people's actions and I don't expect things to run well overall.
 
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It's called a democracy, deal with it. Bush would win again because although a lot of republicans disapprove of his job, it'll be a cold day in hell when some lying democrat politician (oops, one in the same) gets the tick from them.
 
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Think, then speak. In that order.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Think, then speak. In that order.

Didnt i already close you
 
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Pengwuino said:
Didnt i already close you

Ok, think, then spell check, then speak. In that order.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
Ok, think, then spell check, then speak. In that order.

cyrus closed
 
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Your comebacks are as lame as Jason's scooter. pfft :rolleyes:
 
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Honestly, I can't say that I agree with your comment that they are bullying you. I get worse from my alma maters to donate money. Don't read too much into it. Do what I do when I see most of those in my mailbox...throw it directly in the trash. If you ever want to donate, do it on your own terms and timetable.
 
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Wait are you sure you didnt have it given to you as a forward?
 
  • #18
Forward it to your local DNC campaign manager. It won't do any harm, and it'll be hilarious.

edit: If they actually bother to reply, forward it back to the Republicans!
 
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FredGarvin said:
Honestly, I can't say that I agree with your comment that they are bullying you. I get worse from my alma maters to donate money. Don't read too much into it. Do what I do when I see most of those in my mailbox...throw it directly in the trash. If you ever want to donate, do it on your own terms and timetable.

I just thought it was strange that they sent one to me, but they seem to have meant to send it to my dad, who would definitely not donate money. I guess bullying is the wrong word, but it was confrontational and manipulative. Either I side with them, or I side with the lying democrats who won't take care of terrorism:rolleyes:
 
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Rach3 said:
Forward it to your local DNC campaign manager. It won't do any harm, and it'll be hilarious.

edit: If they actually bother to reply, forward it back to the Republicans!

:biggrin: mayhaps I will.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Wait are you sure you didnt have it given to you as a forward?

direct from kenmehlman@gop.com
 
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franznietzsche said:
Bully? Hardly. Intense propaganda? Not even. I think you have some distorted partisan perceptions. That said, spam mailings asking for donations are assinine, you'd think they'd want to be better than telemarketers at least.

:confused: not sure why you think that about me. Like I said, maybe bully is the wrong word, I guess they're just being fanatical and manipulative (which is a characteristic of many politicians, not just Republicans). How do I have distored partisan perceptions?
 
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0TheSwerve0 said:
direct from kenmehlman@gop.com

Send him a printout of the email in his mail

and some baking powder... :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: *whistles*
 
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Pengwuino said:
It's called a democracy, deal with it. Bush would win again because although a lot of republicans disapprove of his job, it'll be a cold day in hell when some lying democrat politician (oops, one in the same) gets the tick from them.

Actually, true democracy exists in other kinds of social systems, like bands, tribes, and "big man" (don't ask) groups. People in these groups achieve leadership. Ours is a stratified society where people are pretty much ascribed high rank by their birth (low class mobility, so not many real achievers present in the upper class) and then we choose from among the ones with highest rank. State societies all have issues like this, no matter what form of government.
 
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0TheSwerve0 said:
:confused: not sure why you think that about me. Like I said, maybe bully is the wrong word, I guess they're just being fanatical and manipulative (which is a characteristic of many politicians, not just Republicans). How do I have distored partisan perceptions?


Your perception of it as 'intense propaganda', and use of the word 'bully'. I inferred (perhaps incorrectly, but that would surprise me) that your description of the partisan statements in the email were relative to your own partisan views--the farther left you are, the milder the things that you percieve as 'intense' right wing 'propaganda'.

Typically you can infer a lot about people from the way they describe things.

Hence my conclusion that your personal bias distorted your perception (which, in the most general terms is a 'duh!' conclusion, but that's not the point).

Fanatical? To some extent. Manipulative? Too broad a term. 'Fear-mongering' (trying to incite fear of a DNC government, and the removal of Bush) does a little better but not much. Sleazy? Definitely. But I'm probably just revealing my own anti-politician and government bias with that last one :rolleyes: .

Nuance of meaning matters. If you didn't mean those particular words, then don't use them. English is a bad enough language already, no need to make accurate communication even more difficult by not bothering to actually say what you mean.
 
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franznietzsche said:
Your perception of it as 'intense propaganda', and use of the word 'bully'. I inferred (perhaps incorrectly, but that would surprise me) that your description of the partisan statements in the email were relative to your own partisan views--the farther left you are, the milder the things that you percieve as 'intense' right wing 'propaganda'.

No, I'd react that way if it was sent by Democrats or anyone else. I'm Independent btw.

franznietzsche said:
Fanatical? To some extent. Manipulative? Too broad a term. 'Fear-mongering' (trying to incite fear of a DNC government, and the removal of Bush) does a little better but not much. Sleazy? Definitely. But I'm probably just revealing my own anti-politician and government bias with that last one :rolleyes: .

However you want to word it, it's crafty and it's not my type:-p I think I don't digest BS as well as most people.
franznietzsche said:
Nuance of meaning matters. If you didn't mean those particular words, then don't use them. English is a bad enough language already, no need to make accurate communication even more difficult by not bothering to actually say what you mean.

A certain amount of subjectivity is involved too. I don't need to say what form the manipulation took (which fear-mongering is), so I don't see how my description was distorted.
 
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Maybe I should have just posted the email without any comments.
 
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