Why do all wine glass have four nodes (4th harmonic)?

In summary, the conversation discusses the number of nodes on wine glasses and their relationship to the fundamental frequency. It is explained that every circular object has a 4th harmonic, including wine glasses. The conversation also touches on whether the water level affects the fundamental frequency. It is mentioned that the easiest oscillation for the glass involves 4 nodes and 4 anti-nodes. There is also mention of the force needed to change the length and the resulting frequency. The participants are asked to continue the discussion in one thread.
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Why do all wine glass have four nodes (4th harmonic)??

Why do wine glass have four nodes... or four anitnodes... (4th harmonic)?
 
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Every circular thing has a 4th harmonic, I think, together with many other modes. Why do you expect any difference for wine glasses?
 
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o6mangro, are you asking "why does the fundamental mode have 4 nodes" (as shown here )?
 
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yes that is what I am talking about!
you got it!
Why is it that wine glasses have four nodes on fundamental frequency?

and also does the fundamental frequency of the object (wine glass + water) change when water level is changed.

The actual wine glass' fundamental frequency won't but is that affectively what is happening ?

Thanks
 
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Ah, that question makes more sense.
The "easiest" oscillation which keeps the length of the ring of the glass constant* is a compression in one direction, and an expansion in the other one. This leads to 4 nodes and 4 anti-nodes.

and also does the fundamental frequency of the object (wine glass + water) change when water level is changed.
If the glass has to move more water in the oscillation, it needs more time for the same displacement (at the same elongation => same force).

*changing the length would need much more force, and give a higher frequencyCan we restrict the discussion to one thread instead of two, please?
 

1. Why do all wine glasses have four nodes?

Wine glasses have four nodes due to the physical properties of glass and the way it is shaped. When a glass is struck or rubbed, it vibrates and produces sound waves. These sound waves create patterns of air pressure within the glass, resulting in nodes or points of maximum vibration. In a wine glass, the shape and thickness of the glass create four distinct nodes that produce a clear and pleasant sound.

2. What is the significance of the fourth harmonic in wine glasses?

The fourth harmonic is significant because it is the frequency at which the glass vibrates the most, producing the loudest and most distinct sound. This is why wine glasses are designed to have four nodes, as it allows for the most efficient and pleasing sound production.

3. Are there any other factors that contribute to the four nodes in wine glasses?

Yes, the shape and thickness of the glass are not the only factors that contribute to the four nodes. The size of the glass, the type of glass used, and the temperature of the liquid inside can also affect the frequency and placement of the nodes.

4. Can the number of nodes in a wine glass be changed?

Yes, the number of nodes in a wine glass can be changed by altering the shape, thickness, or size of the glass. However, this may also affect the quality and clarity of the sound produced.

5. Why is the sound produced by a wine glass so unique?

The sound produced by a wine glass is unique due to the combination of factors such as the shape, thickness, and material of the glass, as well as the liquid inside and the way it is played. The unique sound is also influenced by the human perception of sound, making it a pleasant and distinct auditory experience.

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