Why do all wine glass have four nodes (4th harmonic)?

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Wine glasses exhibit four nodes due to their fundamental frequency oscillation, which is a characteristic of circular objects. This oscillation involves a compression in one direction and an expansion in another, resulting in four nodes and four anti-nodes. The fundamental frequency of the glass itself remains constant, but the frequency can change when the water level varies, as the glass must move more water during oscillation. Increased water level requires more time for the same displacement, affecting the overall frequency. Understanding these principles clarifies the acoustic properties of wine glasses.
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Why do all wine glass have four nodes (4th harmonic)??

Why do wine glass have four nodes... or four anitnodes... (4th harmonic)?
 
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Every circular thing has a 4th harmonic, I think, together with many other modes. Why do you expect any difference for wine glasses?
 
o6mangro, are you asking "why does the fundamental mode have 4 nodes" (as shown here )?
 
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yes that is what I am talking about!
you got it!
Why is it that wine glasses have four nodes on fundamental frequency?

and also does the fundamental frequency of the object (wine glass + water) change when water level is changed.

The actual wine glass' fundamental frequency won't but is that affectively what is happening ?

Thanks
 
Ah, that question makes more sense.
The "easiest" oscillation which keeps the length of the ring of the glass constant* is a compression in one direction, and an expansion in the other one. This leads to 4 nodes and 4 anti-nodes.

and also does the fundamental frequency of the object (wine glass + water) change when water level is changed.
If the glass has to move more water in the oscillation, it needs more time for the same displacement (at the same elongation => same force).

*changing the length would need much more force, and give a higher frequencyCan we restrict the discussion to one thread instead of two, please?
 
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