Why do moving balls and bicycles eventually come to a stop?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons why moving balls and bicycles eventually come to a stop, exploring the physics behind motion, forces acting on these objects, and energy transformations. The scope includes conceptual explanations and technical reasoning related to motion and forces.

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  • Some participants propose that opposing forces such as friction, air resistance, and gravity cause moving objects to slow down and eventually stop.
  • Others argue that a bicycle continues to move for a time after pedaling stops due to inertia, suggesting that the forces acting against it are not immediately strong enough to halt its motion.
  • A participant notes that even on a frictionless surface, deformation forces at the contact patch of a rolling ball contribute to its eventual stop, indicating that these forces can be significant.
  • Another participant questions whether objects slow down in a vacuum, leading to a clarification that deformation still occurs even in such conditions, albeit minimally.
  • One contribution explains that while cycling, chemical energy is converted into kinetic energy, which is gradually lost through various means, including heat from friction in the bike's components.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the mechanisms that cause moving objects to stop, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on the primary factors involved.

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Some claims depend on specific conditions, such as the presence of deformation forces and the nature of surfaces involved, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes varying assumptions about ideal versus real-world scenarios.

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Hello, members.

Why does a moving ball stop and why does a bicycle stop when cyclist stops pedaling? What's the physics behind it? Kindly explain your answer.

Thank you.
 
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Tho ball and the bike are both objects In motion if there is an opposing force such as friction, air resistance, or gravity they will slow the objects down to a stop that is why in a vacuum if an object is set into motion it will continue forever at the same speed until another force acts upon it
 
Thank you Biscuit. When we stop pedaling, the bicycle does not stop immediately, it continues its motion for some time, then stops, why is it so? Could you explain it a bit?
 
LogU16 said:
Thank you Biscuit. When we stop pedaling, the bicycle does not stop immediately, it continues its motion for some time, then stops, why is it so? Could you explain it a bit?
The forces even all together obviously are not as strong as a unmovable wall they are only constants pushing against the force that you initially started with the bike. So to restate that is you have constant forces vs a force that was started and then stopped so the constants can slowly push against it by colliding particles or friction between (gravity is a little more complicated but you get the idea). Sorry I might not be as helpful as you want I am only a sophomore who hasn't even finished ap physics yet
 
Even if the ball is rolling on a perfectly level and frictionless surface it will still come to a stop due to the forces of deformation at the contact patch. The ball deforms as it contacts the surface and the normal force which would be perfectly vertical becomes angled against the direction of motion and brings the ball to a stop. Actually, even on a non-friction free surface, these deformation forces are higher than the friction forces.
 
Tom_K said:
Even if the ball is rolling on a perfectly level and frictionless surface it will still come to a stop due to the forces of deformation at the contact patch. The ball deforms as it contacts the surface and the normal force which would be perfectly vertical becomes angled against the direction of motion and brings the ball to a stop. Actually, even on a non-friction free surface, these deformation forces are higher than the friction forces.
Are u saying objects slow down even in vacuum or are you just excluding a surface in my scenario because if it's the vacuum scenario that's very interesting
 
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Yes, even in a vacuum there will be deformation at the contact patch and the normal force will be slightly redirected away from the vertical and against the direction of rolling. If the object is extremely hard it will deform only slightly and will roll a long time, but there will be some deformation and eventually it will come to a stop.

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LogU16 said:
Hello, members.

Why does a moving ball stop and why does a bicycle stop when cyclist stops pedaling? What's the physics behind it? Kindly explain your answer.

Thank you.
In simplest terms the answer is that while you are cycling you are converting chemical energy in your body into kinetic energy contained within the bike.,
kinetic energy is the energy that something possesses due to its motion, it is now part of the system which is the bike.
In a realistic situation that energy is gradually lost in a number of ways, for example some will be lost as heat in the less than perfect wheel hub bearings.
the only way it would be lost instantly is if you hit a brick wall, in which case all of the kinetic energy is lost in the form of slightly heating up the bike and the wall.
 

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