Why do people say chemistry is hard?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived difficulty of chemistry courses, particularly Chem I and Chem II, as experienced by students transitioning into geoscience. Participants share personal experiences, concerns, and varying opinions on the challenges of studying chemistry, including memorization, practical work, and individual aptitude.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express anxiety about the difficulty of chemistry, citing others' warnings about failing the courses.
  • Concerns are raised about the need to memorize complex names and reactions in chemistry.
  • Others argue that difficulty is subjective and varies based on individual strengths and study habits.
  • Some participants suggest that chemistry can be enjoyable and not as hard as its reputation implies, highlighting the fun aspects of experiments.
  • There are mentions of specific challenges in chemistry, such as physical chemistry and organic chemistry, which may be more demanding than introductory courses.
  • Experiments that illustrate subtle chemical reactions are discussed, showcasing the engaging aspects of the subject.
  • Some participants note that practical work can be affected by group dynamics, impacting overall success in the course.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the difficulty of chemistry. While some find it manageable with the right approach, others maintain that it can be quite challenging, especially for those who struggle with memorization or practical work.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence based on their backgrounds and experiences in related subjects, indicating that prior knowledge may influence perceptions of difficulty. There are also references to the impact of teaching styles on students' experiences.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering or preparing for chemistry courses, particularly those transitioning from other disciplines, may find insights into the challenges and rewards of studying chemistry.

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I have to take chem I and chem II this summer because I switched to geoscience. I'm worried because everyone tells me its too hard to pass, and it kinda scares me, although I know not to rely on other people's fears to conclude how hard a class is. I finished all my finals this semester, got C in physics I, and at least A's in my two astronomies, and I'm waiting on calc. Physics was tough but doable, so is Chemistry along the lines of the difficulty level in physics? I made an A in high school chemistry but I had to study all the time for that class, I just hope I can do it this time around.
 
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because u need to remember all the complex names of elements and chemicals and the reactions. what turns what colour and what is what used for what. why is it good why is it bad and so on
 
because some people are good at differint things
 
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Y.E.T.I. said:
I have to take chem I and chem II this summer because I switched to geoscience. I'm worried because everyone tells me its too hard to pass, and it kinda scares me, although I know not to rely on other people's fears to conclude how hard a class is. I finished all my finals this semester, got C in physics I, and at least A's in my two astronomies, and I'm waiting on calc. Physics was tough but doable, so is Chemistry along the lines of the difficulty level in physics? I made an A in high school chemistry but I had to study all the time for that class, I just hope I can do it this time around.
People who don't do well studying X will always say X is hard. That's to be expected.

Some people, however, do well studying chemistry. Some of these people we call chemists. You get out of studying what you put into it.
 
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SteamKing said:
People who don't do well studying X will always say X is hard. That's to be expected.

Some people, however, do well studying chemistry. Some of these people we call chemists. You get out of studying what you put into it.
I know, I just worry about it because they all say that its too easy to fail it. I don't mind studying, that's expected, so I guess I could make it if I just study. I'm glad they're different sessions and not concurrent with each other!
 
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Up through high school I liked chemistry and physics about equally. Then when I got to college I decided to major in physics so I wouldn't have to memorize as much stuff. :cool:

(That, and Maxwell's equations blew my mind!)
 
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I really liked physics and was in that before geoscience but I just wasn't cut out for it. I do like rocks though, and I'm decent with that, so the change isn't too bad!
 
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that rocks
 
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Everybody I know who doesn’t like chemistry thinks chemistry is hard. It’s the cloud of a course that has this reputation for being difficult (and perhaps some teachers really do make the class this way), but chemistry is not that hard.

Most of the math is not that advanced … and you get to use Bunsen burners :biggrin:

I love chemistry. Don't be afraid. It's beautiful :oldlove:
 
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i too love chemistry as playing with fire and explosives is fun without doubt.
 
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James Holland said:
i too love chemistry as playing with fire and explosives is fun without doubt.
Not everything about chemistry has to do with fire or something dramatic and loud--those are never the experiments taught in a basic chemistry class, anyway. I find the most subtle reactions to be the most delightful.
 
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true last lesson we made soap this was fun but grew tedious quite soon.
 
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Chem I & II classes should be very doable for the average (geoscience) student, assuming you have the right background. They probably will be fun, though lab work may take a lot of time.

Chemistry gets difficult when you have to do physical chemistry or memorize a crazy amount of organic chemistry reaction mechanisms. Molecular orbitals of the metal atoms in rocks, that's crazy stuff.
 
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In my experience chemistry is hard at first but if you're smart and disciplined you can handle it pretty easily. A lot of chemistry in my opinion comes down to memorizing the rules of what reacts with what.
 
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also it isn't always entirely you skill and ability that counts. if you are doing a practical with a partner and you have a useless partner it will be bad for you and put you in an awful position to succeed. as one basic practical can cost you several percent in an exam.
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
Not everything about chemistry has to do with fire or something dramatic and loud--those are never the experiments taught in a basic chemistry class, anyway. I find the most subtle reactions to be the most delightful.

What are some examples of these subtle reactions?
 
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atyy said:
What are some examples of these subtle reactions?
making soap
testing for carbon dioxide
learning the properties of graphite
 
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atyy said:
What are some examples of these subtle reactions?
My favorite:
Sulfuric acid, a bit of concentrated hydrogen peroxide, and some warm water into a glass or beaker. If you pour potassium permanganate into the mixture, you can see the purple liquid enter the glass, the then the color instantly disappears. No matter, how much you pour, the solution won't become purple. The manganese in the permanganate reacts with the peroxide and loses it's oxygen (seen as bubbles), leaving only manganese ions, which is colorless. Thus, you get to see the original solution react to become a different solution right before your eyes in a, what I think, a very entertaining way.

And then, of course, I like the classic traffic lights reaction as well as the rising of yeast for bread :)
 
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as i said some people are good at differint things
 
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and again sorry about my spelling
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
My favorite:
Sulfuric acid, a bit of concentrated hydrogen peroxide, and some warm water into a glass or beaker. If you pour potassium permanganate into the mixture, you can see the purple liquid enter the glass, the then the color instantly disappears. No matter, how much you pour, the solution won't become purple. The manganese in the permanganate reacts with the peroxide and loses it's oxygen (seen as bubbles), leaving only manganese ions, which is colorless. Thus, you get to see the original solution react to become a different solution right before your eyes in a, what I think, a very entertaining way.

And then, of course, I like the classic traffic lights reaction as well as the rising of yeast for bread :)

Wow, you're clearly very passionate about chemistry!
 
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micromass said:
Wow, you're clearly very passionate about chemistry!
I love it so much it's probably unhealthy.
 
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ProfuselyQuarky said:
I love it so much it's probably unhealthy.

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Chemistry teacher: And if you combine the base and the acid just right, you
can safely drink it.

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SteamKing said:
...You get out of studying what you put into it.
Uh, in this case, I'm not so sure. What I got out of chemistry was a headache and I'm pretty sure that's not what I put in :smile:
 
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