Why Do Railcars Use Inverters with Alternators?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the use of inverters in diesel railcars, specifically their role in conjunction with alternators for powering electrical systems. Participants explore the technical aspects of how these components interact and the implications for power stability and frequency control.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the alternators convert the engines' DC potential to AC and questions whether the inverters stabilize the frequency of the AC power from the alternators.
  • Another participant explains that without diodes, the frequency of the AC would vary with engine RPM, indicating that the rated frequency may not align with standard expectations.
  • A third participant clarifies that the inverters convert the variable frequency AC from the alternators to a stable frequency and voltage, and introduces the concept of Variable Frequency Drives (VFDs) used for controlling the speed of traction motors based on desired train speed.
  • A trainee driver expresses appreciation for the information but indicates a lack of engineering background, highlighting a desire to understand the principles involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the function of inverters in stabilizing frequency and voltage, but there are nuances regarding the specifics of how this is achieved and the implications for train operation that remain less clear.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the full technical details of the interaction between alternators and inverters, nor does it clarify the specific operational parameters of the systems involved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in diesel-electric systems, railcar engineering, or those seeking to understand the integration of electrical components in transportation systems may find this discussion relevant.

john13
Hi everyone

I am currently working with diesel railcars. To power the electrical systems, we have engines connected to alternators, which then connect to static inverters. The auxiliary power system runs off the static inverters, initially at 415V AC but distributed throughout the railcars at 415V AC, 240V AC, 21V AC, 65V AC and 24V DC.

I don't understand the purpose of the inverters here. I understand that the alternators convert the engines' DC potential to AC. So do the inverters simply stabilise the frequency of the AC power flowing from the alternators? Or do they do something else?

Many thanks for any help you can offer with this.
 
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If you remove the diodes, the frequency of the AC will vary with engine RPM. The rated frequency is also unlikely to be the 50 or 60 hertz you expect.
 
john13 said:
I understand that the alternators convert the engines' DC potential rotational energy to AC.
As @anorlunda stated, the AC output of the alternators will change frequency with engine speed. The AC is fed to the inverters, and the inverters convert it AC at the desired stable frequency and voltage(s).

Diesel-Electric drive systems take power from the alternators, through an inverter, and convert it to AC at a variable frequency. The frequency is varied according to the desired train speed. The higher the frequency, the faster the traction motors will turn. These are called Variable Frequency Drives, or VFDs.

VFDs are also used in industry, often to drive pumps or conveyer belts at a desired , controllable, speed.
 
Many thanks for these very informative replies.

I'm a trainee driver, not an engineer, so this sort of stuff is a bit beyond my area of professional competence. But I do like understanding the underlying principles.
 
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