Why do we say photons travel ?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of photons and whether they truly "travel" or if energy is simply communicated without movement. Participants debate the concept of photons as material particles with zero rest mass, emphasizing that while photons can be blocked or redirected, their behavior is often described in terms of wave-particle duality. They explore the idea that electromagnetic waves exist everywhere, raising questions about the existence of photons in empty space and the implications of their interactions with matter. The conversation highlights the complexities of understanding light and energy transmission, suggesting that photons may not exist independently without interaction. Ultimately, the nature of light and photons remains a nuanced topic in physics, inviting further exploration and discussion.
  • #31
It never exhibits its wave and particle natures simultaneously.

Good point. I had never fully considered that. I guess it depends in part on what is meant by "exhibits."

Can one realize a photon's pure wave nature from its nonsimultaneous and pure particle nature?

Is a wave packet a single photon imaginary in part, or perhaps always a multiplicity of photons?

Might wave packets interact with other wave packets?
 
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... if you try to observe the wave nature of a photon and then try to observe its particle nature... how do you know you are still looking at the same photon? don't they all look pretty similar...

I would say science is about measurement, all we can know is what we measured in a particular interaction and we can only try to guess (educated) what happens between measured interactions...
 
  • #33
Loren Booda asks,
Is a wave packet a single photon imaginary in part, or perhaps always a multiplicity of photons?
I'm not sure what you mean by 'imaginary in part'.

It might seem intuitive that you can produce a photon by chopping a light beam into a very short pulse of light. The result will have a spread of frequencies ( Fourier modes ) and looks mathematically like a wave-packet, a wave packet being a superposition of many close frequencies. It is also localizable like a particle. But it is controversial to refer to that as a photon.

Single photon sources are notoriously difficult to make, and I haven't seen completely convincing experimental results, but I may not be up-to-date with the technology.

axawire, I agree with your view that we can only guess what goes on between obervations.
 
  • #34
Is a wave packet a single photon imaginary in part...
In other words, can't the photon before measurement be represented as a vector oscillating in complex space? A Fourier transform, such as accompanies a measurement, might convert a wave packet into a photon, or a wave into a wave packet.

Single photon scintillations have been observed for decades.
 
  • #35
Branching this question

lightarrow said:
Can a photon exist in absence of interaction? Perhaps we should start a new thread about it. (My answer is no, but I'm open to every possibility).

I think it might be beneficial to mkbh_10's question if there is agreement on terminology. I've posted this question as "When is a photon a photon"
 

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