Why do we use the natural log in the derivative of an exponential function?

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The discussion revolves around the use of the natural logarithm in the derivative of exponential functions, specifically why the natural log is preferred over logarithms of other bases. Participants explore theoretical underpinnings, properties of the natural base, and implications for calculus and other mathematical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the natural logarithm is used in the derivative of \( a^x \) and presents a derivation from the exponential function.
  • Another participant notes that using a base other than \( e \) would complicate the derivative process, suggesting that the properties of \( e \) simplify calculations.
  • Some participants highlight that the natural base \( e \) has unique properties, such as the limit behavior as \( h \) approaches 0, which makes the derivative straightforward.
  • One participant mentions the extensive applications of the natural logarithm in various fields, including mathematics and statistics, suggesting that its prevalence is due to its utility.
  • Several participants assert that any base can be used for logarithms in derivatives, referencing the change of base formula, but express curiosity about the historical choice of the natural logarithm.
  • A later reply corrects a misunderstanding regarding the derivative of a constant, emphasizing that it does not depend on \( x \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of using the natural logarithm versus other bases, with some asserting that any base can work while others emphasize the advantages of the natural base. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the historical reasons for the preference of the natural logarithm.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions about the implications of using different logarithmic bases in derivatives, as well as the specific properties of the natural logarithm that may not be fully articulated in the discussion.

QuickLoris
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I recently struck a question that I have not been able to find an answer to. I feel like I'm missing something obvious, so I've come here for help.

The derivative of a^{x} is a^{x}lna.

The explanation that Stewart 5e gives is:
\frac{d}{dx}a^{x} = \frac{d}{dx}e^{(lna)x}

= e^{(lna)x}\frac{d}{dx}(lna)x

=e^{(lna)x}\cdotlna

=a^{x}lna

My question is: Why do we use the natural log instead of a log of any other base?
 
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ax = e(lna)x

d/dx(ecx) = cecx

If you used any base other than e, the second equation would be a problem.
 
So, in other words, since e is defined so that lim e^{h}=1 as h\rightarrow0, the derivative is itself. Otherwise, the derivative would be recursive? as in,

f(x) = a^{x}

\frac{d}{dx}f(x) = a^{x}\frac{d}{dx}f(0)

Is that right?
 
Hey QuickLoris and welcome to the forums.

The natural base has so many properties for so many applications including pure mathematics, applied mathematics, and statistics, that it is just well suited for these things and as such it becomes not only a tool of frequent use, but also one of investigation.

You have for example the connection between the trig functions to the hyperbolic ones and the exponential via Eulers formula and the complex valued analogs for the trig and hyperbolic.

In statistics you have probability transform functions, distributions, and a variety of other things involving the exponential function.

There are just so many connections that it becomes kind of a "neat coincidence" for all of mathematics.
 
Use any base you like

$$\dfrac{d}{dx}a^x=\frac{\log_b(a)}{\log_b(e)} a^x$$

We can see if b=a or e, we will only need one log.
 
QuickLoris said:
So, in other words, since e is defined so that lim e^{h}=1 as h\rightarrow0, the derivative is itself. Otherwise, the derivative would be recursive? as in,

f(x) = a^{x}

\frac{d}{dx}f(x) = a^{x}\frac{d}{dx}f(0)

Is that right?
No, it is not right. Since f(0) is a number, a constant, and does not depend on x, "df(0)/dx" is equal to 0.
 
lurflurf said:
Use any base you like

$$\dfrac{d}{dx}a^x=\frac{\log_b(a)}{\log_b(e)} a^x$$

We can see if b=a or e, we will only need one log.

I understand that you can use the change of base formula to to change the base to whatever you like once you have the derivative, I just wanted to know why ln was chosen to begin with. mathman somewhat answered my question.

HallsofIvy said:
No, it is not right. Since f(0) is a number, a constant, and does not depend on x, "df(0)/dx" is equal to 0.

I should have used different notation. I mean f '(0), not f(0).
 

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