Why Does a Rubber Band Get Warmer When Stretched?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of a rubber band warming when stretched and the underlying mechanisms, including potential contributions from internal friction and thermodynamics. Participants explore whether rubber bands obey Hooke's Law and the implications of elastic hysteresis in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the source of the mechanical energy that leads to the temperature increase when a rubber band is stretched and released.
  • Another participant suggests that the temperature increase is due to internal friction from polymer chains moving past each other and asserts that all solids obey Hooke's Law for small deformations.
  • A different viewpoint introduces a thermodynamic perspective, describing an experiment involving holding a stretched rubber band against the lip, noting temperature changes during stretching and relaxation.
  • Another participant challenges the idea that a stretched rubber band should warm upon relaxation, stating it should cool instead.
  • Further discussion highlights the role of configurational entropy in the stretching and relaxing process, suggesting that any temperature increase must be attributed to friction rather than changes in entropy.
  • One participant humorously reflects on the experimental approach and notes observations about heat generation related to the speed of stretching and the contact area between the rubber band and the skin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind the temperature change in a rubber band when stretched and relaxed. There is no consensus on whether the observed warming is primarily due to internal friction, thermodynamic effects, or other factors.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the concept of elastic hysteresis and configurational entropy, but these ideas remain unresolved in the discussion. The implications of stretching speed and contact area on heat transfer are also mentioned without definitive conclusions.

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Why a rubber band gets warmer when repeatedly stretched and relaxes? Where does the gained ME comes from? Besides, does rubber band obeys Hooke's Law?
 
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Any temperature increase after stretching and releasing would be due to internal friction, from polymer chains moving past each other. And every solid obeys Hooke's Law for small enough deformations. Take a look at a stress-strain curve for rubber to see how its stiffness changes as you stretch it.
 
 
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Mapes said:
Any temperature increase after stretching and releasing would be due to internal friction, from polymer chains moving past each other. And every solid obeys Hooke's Law for small enough deformations. Take a look at a stress-strain curve for rubber to see how its stiffness changes as you stretch it.

I kinda thought it was due at least in part to thermodynamics. Try this: Get a largish rubber band, stretch it tightly (using both hands) while holding it against your upper lip. It will feel warmer right after the stretch. Now move the rubber band away from your lip but keep it stretched, hold it that way for maybe 30 seconds or so. Then hold it aginst your lip again and immediately relax the stretch and it will feel cool. The cooling wouldn't be due to friction, right?
 
So what is the true rational behind? And does it have something to do with elastic hysteresis?
 
No, and the question you had asked does not correspond to reality. If you relax a stretched rubber band it should cool.
 
Oldfart said:
I kinda thought it was due at least in part to thermodynamics. Try this: Get a largish rubber band, stretch it tightly (using both hands) while holding it against your upper lip. It will feel warmer right after the stretch. Now move the rubber band away from your lip but keep it stretched, hold it that way for maybe 30 seconds or so. Then hold it aginst your lip again and immediately relax the stretch and it will feel cool. The cooling wouldn't be due to friction, right?

Dickfore said:
No, and the question you had asked does not correspond to reality. If you relax a stretched rubber band it should cool.

The original question was about a rubber band that was "repeatedly stretched and relaxe[d]". You're both focusing on the second half, the relaxation, in which the polymer chains are allowed to re-kink and re-coil, increasing their configurational entropy. But over the complete cycle, the configurational entropy is unchanged. Any temperature increase must be due to friction.
 
I can't believe you people have me stretching rubber bands on my lips . What's next ?

" I put some salt in my eye and was wondering... ":-p

I noticed that the faster the stretch, the more heat generated, I understand that, ...the cooling,...I noticed the rubberband , when relaxed against the lip, tends to draw the skin together in tiny folds as it relaxes, might there me some slight loss of heat transfer by conduction, in the form of less surface area contact between lip and rubber band ?

One would think that if the rubber were making surface contact on the relax, like it is when you are initially stretching it, it would generate a slight amount of heat from friction.

If you stretch the band out, let it cool, then draw it across your lip, you will sense the slight rise in temp from friction.

I read somewhere's that our lips are the most temperature sensitive area on our bodies, would they be able to discern such a small difference in temperature ?

Now, excuse while I go find my chapstick, this has been ...taxing
 

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