Why Does Acceleration Decrease When Velocity Increases in SHM?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between acceleration and velocity in simple harmonic motion (SHM). Participants explore why acceleration decreases as velocity increases when a mass approaches the equilibrium point, and they reference related concepts such as derivatives and sinusoidal functions.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why acceleration decreases while velocity increases as a mass moves towards the equilibrium point in SHM.
  • Another participant requests a plot of position, velocity, and acceleration in SHM and discusses the differentiation of the position equation to derive velocity and acceleration.
  • Some participants express familiarity with sinusoidal graphs but still struggle to understand the relationship between acceleration and velocity in SHM.
  • A participant explains that at the equilibrium position, the force acting on the mass is zero, leading to maximum velocity and a decrease in acceleration.
  • There is mention of the relationship between velocity and acceleration being consistent across systems, where positive acceleration increases velocity and negative acceleration decreases it.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about calculus concepts relevant to understanding SHM, particularly the derivatives of sine and cosine functions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the reasons behind the decrease in acceleration while velocity increases. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the underlying principles of SHM.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the need for a deeper understanding of calculus and derivatives, indicating potential limitations in their mathematical background that may affect their grasp of the concepts discussed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of physics and mathematics who are exploring the dynamics of simple harmonic motion and the relationships between position, velocity, and acceleration.

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When a mass is in SHM, and is moving towards equilibrium point, its velocity starts to increase but why does acceleration decreases? What is the gradient when velocity is increasing and when it is at maximum? Thanks a lot!
 
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Can you find a plot of the position, velocity and acceleration of a mass in SHM and provide a link? Are you familiar with the equation for the position of the mass versus time, and how to differentiate it to get the velocity and acceleration? :smile:
 
I am only familiar with the displacement,velocity, and acceleration time graphs but I don't understand them quite well. The diagram attached shows the simple pendulum I am referring to
 

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Here is the graph I was referring to below...

Are you familiar with derivatives of sinusoidal functions?

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/teach_res/jp/waves/hwaves100506_files/image008.gif

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Yea, I am familiar with these sinusoidal graphs but i still don't know why acceleration decreases while velocity increases although I understand as to why acceleration increases as velocity decreases due to the increase in the retarding force
 
Josielle Abdilla said:
Yea, I am familiar with these sinusoidal graphs but i still don't know why acceleration decreases while velocity increases although I understand as to why acceleration increases as velocity decreases due to the increase in the retarding force
Furthermore, I also struggle in trying to understand the equation of x=asin(wt) but this can be because i don't study maths at advanced level
 
The velocity (actually the speed or the magnitude of velocity) decreases when the acceleration is negative. Nothing to do with the fact that the acceleration is increasing or decreasing. It could be constant negative acceleration and the velocity will decrease too.

The relation between velocity and acceleration is the same for any system: velocity is the first derivative of acceleration in respect to time. Positive acceleartion means that the velocity increases and negative acceleration means that velocity decreases.
 
Josielle Abdilla said:
When a mass is in SHM, and is moving towards equilibrium point, its velocity starts to increase but why does acceleration decreases? What is the gradient when velocity is increasing and when it is at maximum? Thanks a lot!

In SHM when a mass moves towards equilibrium position, by definition it is restoring itself to a neutral position. Hence, at equilibrium position the force acting on it would be zero (since if it still had force acting on it, it would not be called a neutral or equilibrium position). But while coming back to the neutral position it gains a lot of momentum or velocity on account of force that is continuously accelerating it and therefore increasing the velocity till it maxes at equilibrium position since at this point the force acting is zero. And on account of Newton's 1st law of motion, it continues to swing to the other end.
 
Josielle Abdilla said:
i still don't know why acceleration decreases while velocity increases

Do you know any calculus, specifically differential calculus and the derivatives of sine and cosine functions?
 

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