Why Does Calculating Torque Away from the Center of Mass Cause Confusion?

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The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding torque calculations when analyzing motion about points other than the center of mass. The user presents a scenario involving a uniform rod with length l and mass m, subjected to a force F at one end. Key equations include the moment of inertia Icm = ml²/12 and the torque τ = (l/2)F. The user concludes that when calculating torque about the positive end of the rod, the net torque is zero, leading to an angular acceleration α of zero, which contradicts the acceleration of the center of mass. The confusion arises from the incorrect application of the net torque equation Iα when not referencing the center of mass.

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Tell me where I've gone wrong (here r(1,2) means position of point 1 with respect to point 2 etc):

ω x r(1,2)=v(1,2)
Differentiating both sides with respect to time:
ω x v(1,2) + \alpha x r(1,2) = a(1,2)
=>ω x (ω x r(1,2)) + \alpha x r(1,2) = a(1,2)

Now let us imagine a uniform rod in free space of length l and mass m, lying with the origin at its centre. A force F(+\hat{j}) is applied at one end (+l/2\hat{i}). We observe the motion about centre of mass first at time 0:
Icm=ml2/12
\tau=+l/2\hat{i} x F\hat{j}=F*l/2\hat{k}.
\alpha=6F/(m*l) \hat{k}
Now since ω=0,
a(cm, positive end)=6F/(m*l) \hat{k} x l/2\hat{i}= 3F/m \hat{j}

Now we observe the motion about the positive end:
\tau=0 (since the force is applied at that very point)
=> \alpha=0
ω=0
Hence a(positive end, cm)=0
=>a(cm, positive end)=0

What have I done wrong? :(
Edit: By positive end I mean the end which is on the positive side of the x axis.
 
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Now we observe the motion about the positive end:
\tau=0 (since the force is applied at that very point)
=> \alpha=0
ω=0
Hence a(positive end, cm)=0
=>a(cm, positive end)=0

What have I done wrong? :(
Things aren't so simple when you take torques with respect to an accelerating point other than the center of mass. You cannot set net torque equal to Iα in such a case.
 
Doc Al said:
Things aren't so simple when you take torques with respect to an accelerating point other than the center of mass. You cannot set net torque equal to Iα in such a case.

Why? And isn't the centre of mass accelerated?

Edit: Didn't read "other than the centre of mass" part. But still, why is it so?
 

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