Why Does Falling on Ice Make You Slide Forward?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of falling on ice, specifically why individuals tend to slide forward when they fall. It explores the dynamics of balance, friction, and body positioning during slips on icy surfaces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the way the human body falls is a significant factor, with a tendency to fall backwards when losing balance.
  • One participant notes that falls often occur when trying to slow down on ice, leading to landing on the bottom and potentially causing feet to slide forward.
  • Another participant explains that during walking, the dynamics of force application and foot placement contribute to the likelihood of slipping, particularly with the front foot.
  • It is proposed that the pivot point of the foot affects how a person can lean, making it easier to fall backwards if the foot slips backwards, while slipping forwards is less comfortable due to body mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanics of falling on ice, with no consensus reached regarding the primary reasons for feet sliding forward during a fall.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on assumptions about body mechanics and friction, which may vary among individuals. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of these interactions.

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I was wondering since when you walk you are pushing backwards, therefore frictions pushes you forwards, so when you fall on ice why do you feet slide forward? Or does that just depend on how you fall? Thanks!
 
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I believe this has more to do with how the human body falls. When you simply lose balance you tend to fall backwards.
 
In most falls on ice, you land on your bottom (tokus in Yiddish).
It often happens when you try to slow down because of the ice.
One more hint. Using your arms for balance works on dry ground, but causes you to slip on ice because your feet have no traction.
 
When you're walking, your velocity is constant, so the average of the horizontal forces over time cancel. You push forwards with your front foot and backwards with the back foot. As you place your front foot down, it's a dynamic situation, and more likely to slip, than the back foot, so the front foot ends up sliding forwards.

Also if a person is just standing, the pivot point is at the back of the foot allowing a person to lean forwards a bit but still keep the center of gravity over the foots contact patch. However the person can't lean back because there very little foot contact patch behind the ankle. This would make it more likely for a person to fall backwards.
 
ssj2pizza said:
when you fall on ice why do you feet slide forward? Or does that just depend on how you fall? Thanks!

I'd put it the other way - you tend to fall if your feet slip forwards.
If your foot slips backwards, you can compensate by leaning forward.
If your foot slips forward.. People are less comfortable with leaning backwards. And most of us don't have backs that bend that way.
 

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