Why Does My Snell's Law Demonstration Fail Using a Linear Function Approach?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the failure of a demonstration of Snell's Law using a linear function approach. Participants explore the reasons behind this failure, focusing on the mathematical representation and geometric considerations involved in the demonstration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the failure may stem from using a linear function, arguing that the concept of a minimum is not defined in this context.
  • Another participant presents a mathematical expression related to Snell's Law, indicating a relationship involving angles and distances.
  • A third participant clarifies that the angle θ1 is measured with respect to the vertical, which may influence the understanding of the problem.
  • Some participants propose that a simpler geometric approach might be more effective for demonstrating Snell's Law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of the linear function approach and the geometry involved. There is no consensus on a definitive solution or explanation for the failure of the demonstration.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the assumptions related to the geometric representation and the implications of using a linear function in the context of Snell's Law.

physics user1
I can't figure out why my demonstration of snell's law fails, that's the demonstration: (I used a photo)
I think it fails because the function t (HO) represents a line and so the concept of minimum is not defined, when I take the derivative and equal it to 0 I'm considering the case when the line is parallel to the x-axis (the first derivative gives me the angular coefficient and when I equal it to 0 the line is parallel) (considering as y the time and as x HO)

Is that the problem? ( I know the real demonstration but i want to understand why this variant doesn't work)
 

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##AO\sin\theta_1=AH##
 
theodoros.mihos said:
##AO\sin\theta_1=AH##

But... θ1 is the angle whit the vertical
 
You are right. May be better a simpler geometry.
Let ##A(x_1,y_1)## and ##B(x_2,y_2)## the end points and ##O(x,0)## the point than we need. Write the total time and take derivation ##d/dx(t)=0##.
 
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yep it is preferable to use simple geometry to demonstrate
 

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