Why Does Saturation Need Undisolved Solute?

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The presence of undissolved solute is crucial for a solution to be classified as saturated because it visually indicates the point at which no more solute can dissolve. Without excess solute, it becomes challenging to determine saturation, as one cannot easily identify when the solution has reached its limit. While it is possible to have a saturated solution without visible undissolved solute, such as after filtering, this state can change with temperature fluctuations, potentially leading to unsaturation. The undissolved solute serves as a reference point for understanding saturation. Thus, while not strictly necessary, undissolved solute plays a significant role in demonstrating and confirming saturation in solutions.
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Why is the presence of undissolved solute necessary for the solution to be considered saturated?

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Why can't there just be a saturated solution with no "excess" solute? For example, why can't there be a point od saturation where one more molecule would cause two molecules to bond and form the smallest "crystal" possible?

Or am I just being too specific?
 
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What's the meaning of a solution being saturated? It means you can't solve any more stuff into it. But how can you understand you can't do that?
Simple, you solve and solve and solve until no more can be solved. So the excess is only for us to understand when the saturation occurs, otherwise how can you tell you can solve any more stuff or not at any time?
 
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I don't think it is a necessary condition.

Technically if you take a solution that was in the equilibrium with the solid, and filter the solid out, you are left with a saturated solution that doesn't contain undissolved solute.

This is tricky, as a slight change in temperature can make the solution unsaturated, so the presence of the solid definitely helps to make sure solution is saturated.
 
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Thanks guys!
 

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