Why does the constant in integration get multiplied instead of canceled out?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a first-order differential equation, specifically focusing on the treatment of arbitrary constants during the integration process. Participants are exploring why constants do not cancel out when integrating both sides of an equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the nature of arbitrary constants in integration and question the assumption that constants can be canceled. Some suggest defining different constants for each side of the equation, while others explore the implications of exponentiating both sides after integration.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives on the treatment of constants. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of different constants and the reasoning behind their multiplication rather than cancellation. There is no explicit consensus, but multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, which may impose specific expectations regarding the treatment of constants in integration. The original poster expresses confusion about the standard approach presented in their textbook.

Oneiromancy
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I solved a pretty routine first-order diff. eq. where you simply separate the variables.

xcos(x)(dy/dx) - sin(y) = 0

=> \int cot(y)dy = \int dx/x

Now, I thought that you would get an arbitrary constant, C, on both sides and they would cancel each other out, but that's wrong. My book let's e^C = A (why?).

The answer should be sin(y) = Ax, but I didn't get that because I canceled out the constant. I suppose my question is why does this happen?
 
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The constant C is arbitrary, which means to say it doesn't have a fixed unknown value. Therefore you can't assume that they have the same value on both sides and it cancel each other out.
 
So I could set the LHS constant to be C_1 and the RHS to be C_2 then their difference can be a new constant A?
 
Hi Oneiromancy! :smile:
Oneiromancy said:
So I could set the LHS constant to be C_1 and the RHS to be C_2 then their difference can be a new constant A?

yes … except

i] it's A = eC1-C2

ii] the examiners will expect you to take the short-cut, and just write one C, on one side of the equation, rather than write two and subtract. :smile:
 
The reason the constant is multiplied is that direction integration
gives you ln(sin(y))= ln(x)+ C and then taking the exponential of both sides,
e^{ln(sin(y))}= e^{ln(x)+ C}
sin(y)= e^{ln(x)}e^C= Ax[/itex]<br /> where A= e<sup>C</sup>.
 

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