Why does the limit of [(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1] equal -1 as x goes to infinity?

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The discussion revolves around the limit of the expression [(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1] as x approaches both positive and negative infinity. Participants are exploring the behavior of this limit in the context of calculus.

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  • Participants are questioning the correctness of the limit's value, with some asserting it equals -1 while others suggest it may not. There are attempts to clarify the limits as x approaches positive and negative infinity, with references to manipulating the expression for evaluation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the limits for both positive and negative infinity, with some participants providing hints and suggestions for evaluating the expression. Multiple interpretations are being discussed, particularly regarding the limit as x approaches negative infinity.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the textbook's claims about the limit's value, indicating a potential discrepancy in understanding or presentation of the problem. The discussion includes references to homework constraints and the challenges faced in grasping the concepts involved.

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I have a question and here it is :

[(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1]

why this equal -1 ?? when X →±∞I would appreciate it if you explain it for me on a paper after you capture it by your camera.
 

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Are you sure the answer is 1? The limit should be -1.
 
sorry I forgot to put the - , yea it does equal -1 but why?
 
What is \lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} {e^{-x}-1}?
\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} {e^{-x}+1} ? Just divide these two answers.
 
HS-Scientist said:
What is \lim_{x\rightarrow \pm\infty} {e^{-x}-1}?
\lim_{x\rightarrow \pm\infty} {e^{-x}+1} ? Just divide these two answers.

That only works for the limit to ##+\infty##.
 
micromass said:
That only works for the limit to ##+\infty##.

yes and that drives me crazy:frown:
 
micromass said:
That only works for the limit to ##+\infty##.

Thanks, fixed.

For negative x, multiply the numerator and denominator by e^x
 
so what about when x→-∞ ?
 
YYaaSSeeRR said:
so what about when x→-∞ ?

First things first. Do you understand the limit when ##x\rightarrow +\infty##?
 
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micromass said:
First things first. Do you understand the limit when ##x\rightarrow +\infty##?

yes I do.
 
  • #11
YYaaSSeeRR said:
yes I do.

Cool. For the other limit, you'll need to follow the hint in #7.

The answer won't be -1, by the way.
 
  • #12
For negative x, multiply the numerator and denominator by ex

I have not seen this after the modification :)
thanks a lot ,this problem forced me to throw the book away.
 
  • #13
YYaaSSeeRR said:
I have not seen this after the modification :)



thanks a lot ,this problem forced me to throw the book away.

So you found the right answer??

Also: you might want to post this in "calculus and beyond" next time :-p
 
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micromass said:
So you found the right answer??

Also: you might want to post this in "calculus and beyond" next time :-p


yes I got the right answer.

you must see teachers here in Syria ,they drive you crazy.
can't wait till I graduate high school and arrive to the US.:wink:
 
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actually when I followed hint #7 the answer wasn't -1 ,so Micromass what is the right answer?
 
  • #16
(e^-x - 1) / (e^-x +1)

Multiply num and denom by e^x

(1 - e^x) / (1 + e^x)

so you if you got positive 1 with negative infinite that makes sense as that reduces to
1/1 = 1
 
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ChaseRLewis said:
(e^-x - 1) / (e^-x +1)

Multiply num and denom by e^x

(1 - e^x) / (1 + e^x)

so you if you got positive 1 with negative infinite that makes sense as that reduces to
1/1 = 1

(1 - e^x) / (1 + e^x) when x→-∞

yea it does equal 1 , but in my textbook when x→-∞ the equation (e^-x - 1) / (e^-x +1) equal -1 and that make no sense for me.
 
  • #18
If your textbook says the answer is -1, then your textbook is wrong. The answer is 1.
 
  • #19
Are we still talking about "[(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1]" as x goes to infinity? For very large x, 1/e^x is very close to 0 so the fraction is close to -1/1= -1.

(Oh, I see. The original post said "as x \to \pm\infty" and the limit as x goes to negative infinity is 1.)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Are we still talking about "[(1/e^x)-1] / [(1/e^x)+1]" as x goes to infinity? For very large x, 1/e^x is very close to 0 so the fraction is close to -1/1= -1.

No, we're talking about the limit to ##-\infty##.
 

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