Why does the power consumption of a plucker machine vary with rotational speed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between the rotational speed of a plucker machine and its power consumption rate. Participants explore possible explanations for the observed phenomenon where lower rotational speeds correspond to higher power consumption rates, while higher speeds result in lower power consumption. The scope includes technical explanations and considerations related to motor types and load characteristics.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the speed of the plucker machine is controlled by a brake rather than by adjusting the voltage or frequency to the motor.
  • Another suggests that the nature of the load affects power consumption, indicating that at low speeds, contents are lifted and fall, while at high speeds, they stick to the drum and rotate with it.
  • There is a question about whether the discussion is about efficiency in terms of output (chickens plucked per watt-hour) versus absolute power consumption at different speeds.
  • A participant mentions that load determines speed and references a NEMA type D motor, suggesting that at high speeds, the motor is unloaded.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the type of motor used and how power was measured, with a focus on the implications of power factor and motor slip at low speeds.
  • A side note is shared about a personal experience related to chicken processing, adding a contextual anecdote to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints and hypotheses regarding the relationship between speed and power consumption, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation or model. Multiple competing views remain regarding the factors influencing power consumption.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the type of motor and load characteristics, as well as unresolved details regarding the measurement of power consumption and the specific conditions of the study referenced.

Henry Rufin
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hi, i have a study on a plucker machine and it came out that when the rotational speed of the plate is low, the power consumption rate is high and if the rotational speed is high, the pcr is low.

what is the possible explanation for that? thanks in advace.
 
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The speed is controlled by a brake, not by changing the voltage (or frequency) to the motor.
 
Could be the nature of the load. For example consider a horizontal axis drum .. at low speeds the contents are lifted and fall down but at high speed they stick to the drum and rotate with it.
 
Could they be referring to efficiency (chickens plucked per watt-hour increases with speed) versus absolute power consumption at each speed?
 
Henry Rufin said:
what is the possible explanation for that?
I think Tom.G hit it, load determines speed.

Might be driven by a NEMA type D motor.
Look at its speed-torque curve. At high speed it's unloaded.

http://industrialelectricalco.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/nema-abcde-torque-curves.pdf
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"I have a study" - -what study, what type of motor? At low speed - a standard induction motor has high slip, high current, lower power. However in an application at low speed the motor will use all of the torque available to try to accelerate - at full speed, it is probably not fully loaded, but then it has bad PF. If YOU did the study - how did you measure power? -- If only V x A and did not include PF... ( Motor curves are like a current ratings - typically "what is available", in an application you are not ON the motor curve - you are somewhere "below" it)

Side note - I did a job in Trinidad and they had "Cluck and Pluck" stores - like a laundromat. You bring in your chickens and cluck and pluck them. As a east cost USA guy, it was the weirdest thing I have ever seen.
 

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