Why Doesn't Car Speed Increase with Constant Accelerator Pressure?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of car acceleration in response to constant accelerator pressure. Participants explore the relationship between force, acceleration, and velocity, questioning why a car does not continue to speed up when the accelerator is held at a constant position. The conversation includes elements of physics, mechanical engineering, and the effects of external forces such as drag and friction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that maintaining a constant force by pressing the accelerator should result in constant acceleration and linear velocity increase, questioning why the speedometer does not reflect this.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of deceleration when the gas pedal is released, prompting a discussion on the forces acting on the car.
  • A participant challenges the idea of constant force, explaining that engine torque varies with RPM and that gear changes affect acceleration.
  • One contribution highlights the role of drag and rolling resistance as unbalanced forces that counteract the thrust from the engine, leading to a steady speed rather than continuous acceleration.
  • Another participant suggests simplifying the problem by assuming a direct linear relationship between pedal pressure and thrust, yet acknowledges that real-world resistances prevent continuous acceleration.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of applying constant force in a frictionless environment, contrasting it with the complexities introduced by real-world conditions.

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Participants express differing views on the mechanics of car acceleration, with no consensus reached. Some argue for the simplicity of constant force leading to constant acceleration, while others emphasize the impact of external forces like drag and friction that complicate this relationship.

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Limitations include assumptions about constant force application, neglect of mechanical complexities, and the effects of external forces that are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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We know,
a=F/m
a=acceleration
F=Force
m=mass

Greater the force applied greater would be the acceleration.If force is constant then for a particular mass the acceleration(rate of change of velocity) would remain constant.Right?

Now, let us say I press down the accelerator of my car.I keep the accelerator at a constant level , i.e. after presing the accelerator wioth my foot to a certain distance down, I neither raise my foot above or below.Then, in such a case,

Am I not maintaining a constant force?
Should not the acceleration remain constant?
i.e. should not the velocity vary uniformly(linearly)?
But the needle of the spedometer of the car shows no change in speed in such a case?
But the force is constant as I keep the accelerator at a constant level , i.e. after presing the accelerator wioth my foot to a certain distance down, I neither raise my foot above or below.
Plz. help!
 
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Think of this situation: you release the gas pedal completely. You're clearly not applying any force, yet the car experiences acceleration in the opposite direction of motion (deceleration).

Why does the car slow down?
 
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dav2008:

You asked ,
you release the gas pedal completely. You're clearly not applying any force, yet the car experiences acceleration in the opposite direction of motion (deceleration).
Ya-- but I am sorry as I am not familiar with mechanical engineering part of the vehicles.Shall be extremely grateful and obliged if you can explain the answer to my question and also tell me why the car experiences deceleration when the peddle is released fully?
 
i think u miss the contribution of the fuel of the car too.

this is not simply u press the accelerator and the the car would accelerate. there are many other things would be involved.

hope it helps^^

kit
 
jrm2002 said:
you release the gas pedal completely. You're clearly not applying any force, yet the car experiences acceleration in the opposite direction of motion (deceleration).

The is due to the force of drag or fluid friction. The drag force experienced by a car can be represented as;

F_{drag} = \frac{1}{2}\rho CAv^2

Where \rho is the density of air, C is the drag co effiecient, A is the cross sectional area of the car and v is the velocity.

This represents an unbalanced force acting on the car, which will cause a negative acceleration. Rolling resistance (of the tyres) and friction of other mechanical parts would produce a retarting force upon the car.

~H
 
the mechanics of the car just contributes to unnecessary complication of the problem, so let's boil it down...
lets assume that the force you apply to the pedal is directly linearly proportional to the "thrust" of the car (neglecting torque curves, gear changes, fuel and such). now since you are applying a constant force to the pedal, and hence telling the car to apply a constant "thrust" to the ground, why does the car not continue to accelerate? Well, neglecting air resistance, road friction, drag torque in the drive train, etc., the car would continue to accelerate, much like a rocket in space where there is no resistance to motion. but since we live on earth, and these resistances do occur, the constant thrust of the car is exactly balanced by the external forces mentioned before when the car reaches a constant speed (i.e., a=0). Hope that helps without being redundant in addition to the other helpful answers in this thread
 
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That means:

If we pull anybody say with a constant force (neglecting effects due to friction,etc.) it would accelerate with a constant acceleration i.e. its velocity keeps changing at every instant(linear variation).Right?
 
jrm2002 said:
That means:

If we pull anybody say with a constant force (neglecting effects due to friction,etc.) it would accelerate with a constant acceleration i.e. its velocity keeps changing at every instant(linear variation).Right?
yes, it is
 

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