Why Don't Actors' Pupils Contract Under Intense Movie Lights?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of why actors' pupils do not appear to contract under the intense lighting conditions experienced during movie shoots. Participants explore various factors that might contribute to this observation, including physiological responses, lighting characteristics, and personal experiences related to light sensitivity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a personal observation about the lack of pupil contraction in actors under bright lights and questions whether it relates to the spectrum range or polarization of the lights.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that drug use might explain the phenomenon, although this is met with skepticism from the original poster.
  • A participant references pilot training, suggesting that avoiding direct gaze at bright lights might prevent pupil contraction, but another participant disagrees, citing physiological reasons for looking directly at bright lights to avoid discomfort.
  • There is a discussion about whether movie lights are point sources or spread out over a larger area, with a participant proposing that uniformity of lighting could be a factor in the observed effect.
  • One participant shares their experience with Kliegs being bounced off reflective sheets to create more uniform lighting, indicating a possible method used in film production.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons behind the lack of pupil contraction, with no consensus reached. Various hypotheses are presented, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the primary factors at play.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about physiological responses to light and the characteristics of movie lighting are not fully explored or defined, leaving room for further investigation.

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This might more properly belong in the Biology section, but I figure that it might involve other factors.
There's something that I've been observing for decades, but never actually noticed until last week when watching an Extreme Close-Up shot in a movie.
Can anyone explain why an actor's pupils don't contract under the intensity of shooting lights? I'm seriously photophobic, but have been in 4 movies which involved hours and hours of being lighted. Those suckers are bright, but they didn't bother me. Seemingly, no actor is discomforted by them, other than sometimes the heat.
Is it simply a matter of spectrum range, or polarization, or what? An acquaintance of mine is a movie lighting grip, but I haven't seen him in a couple of years and doubt that he would know the answer to this anyway.
 
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Hmm, good question. My guess: cocaine, amphetamines, hallucinogens, or any combination of them.
 
lisab said:
Hmm, good question. My guess: cocaine, amphetamines, hallucinogens, or any combination of them.

Nice try, but I wasn't even drinking in those days. I've sure never done any of that other stuff.
 
Not that you know of.

The punch is always spiked
 
:smile:

:rolleyes:
 
I suppose that as long as you never look directly at them, it won't affect the pupils. Pilots who train to fly at night are told never to look at bright lights directly, in order to keep night vision.
 
Dr Lots-o'watts said:
I suppose that as long as you never look directly at them, it won't affect the pupils. Pilots who train to fly at night are told never to look at bright lights directly, in order to keep night vision.

Interesting theory, Doc. I was a pilot, but VFR only. From a physiological aspect, however, I disagree with that plan. As mentioned in my OP, I'm severely photophobic, to the point where I can't go outside in daylight without wearing my photochromic glasses.
Once in a while on the road, at night, someone fails to dip his lights when approaching. By what you said about pilot training, I should look away. Physiologically, that is not the right thing to do. Peripheral vision is far more photosensitive than is direct focal vision. To avoid discomfort, I look directly at the headlights. I do, however, make sure to consciously compensate for the natural tendency of someone to steer in the direction in which s/he is looking.
I had to leave for about an hour just in the middle of writing this, so I might have to edit it once I recheck the thread.
 
Danger said:
Once in a while on the road, at night, someone fails to dip his lights when approaching. By what you said about pilot training, I should look away. Physiologically, that is not the right thing to do. Peripheral vision is far more photosensitive than is direct focal vision. To avoid discomfort, I look directly at the headlights. I do, however, make sure to consciously compensate for the natural tendency of someone to steer in the direction in which s/he is looking.
I had to leave for about an hour just in the middle of writing this, so I might have to edit it once I recheck the thread.

hmm, maybe an answer in here? are movie lights a point source, or spread out over a large area? an issue of uniformity of lighting?
 
Proton Soup said:
hmm, maybe an answer in here? are movie lights a point source, or spread out over a large area? an issue of uniformity of lighting?

That might very well hold the solution, Mr. Soup. I've never been in a Close-Up, let alone an Extreme Close-Up, so I'm not sure how those are dealt with. In my personal experience, the Kliegs have been bounced off of multiple reflective sheets to make the lighting more uniform. Good thought. :approve:
 
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