Why in hydrogen fusion are neutrinos ejected?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanisms of hydrogen fusion and nuclear fission, specifically focusing on the emission of neutrinos during fusion, the role of neutrons in fission, and the nature of the forces that hold nucleons together in the nucleus. Participants explore theoretical aspects, technical explanations, and conceptual clarifications related to these topics.

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  • One participant inquires about the reason for neutrino emission during hydrogen fusion and the mechanics of neutron-induced fission.
  • Another participant explains that neutrinos are emitted to preserve lepton number conservation and discusses the role of strong nuclear force in holding nucleons together.
  • A different participant questions the classification of mesons as force carriers and seeks clarification on their relationship to gluons, suggesting that mesons decay into gluons.
  • Another participant argues that mesons can be considered as responsible for hadron interactions and references Chiral Perturbation Theory.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity of communication, with one participant suggesting that language barriers may affect understanding.

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Participants express differing views on the role of mesons and gluons in the strong nuclear force, and there is no consensus on whether mesons should be classified as force carriers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of these interactions and the clarity of some explanations.

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Some statements rely on specific definitions and theoretical frameworks that may not be universally accepted. The discussion includes unresolved questions about the decay processes of mesons and their implications for understanding nuclear forces.

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Hi, I was wondering:

why in hydrogen fusion are neutrinos ejected?

why in fission does the neutron actually knock over neutrons out of atoms

the nucleon are held together in the nuceus by nuclear forces which over power electrostatic forces. But what actually generates these forces? Are electrons not in the nuclear because of their size and mass exerts little nuclear force?

Thanks :)
 
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i) do preserve lepton number conservation, the neutrino emitted is an electron-neutrino, which carries no electric charge and electron lepton number +1. Emitted is also a positron, which carries electric charge +1 and electron lepton number -1. The protons (hydrogen nucleus) has no lepton number at all.

ii) are you referring to neutron induced fission? I can't even make up a correct sentence out of what you wrote.

http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/fission/fission.html

The nucleus will be split into two halves and some free neutrons, the final result is probabilistic and the result will occur since it can occur (is more energetically favourable)

http://www.knutsford-scibar.co.uk/webimages/fission.jpg

iii) I think you are asking what is the attractive force that helds nucleons together, and that is the strong nuclear force:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_force

http://aether.lbl.gov/elements/stellar/strong/strong.html

the concept is that only protons have EM-force, which is repulsive and infinite range, but quite weak in strength. Both protons and neutrons have attractive force called the nuclear force, which is strong but short ranged - only nearby neighbour nucleons feel that force.

Now look at the image on fission again, the incoming neutron will disturb the mother nucleus and make it elongated. The ratio of neighbours will decrease at the middle where it is thin, thus the electromagnetic force might take over and force the elongated nucleus to split in two + some neutrons. The yeild of daughter nuclei follows a distribution, here are some examples:

http://www.kayelaby.npl.co.uk/atomic_and_nuclear_physics/4_7/4_7_1a.html

also the number of neutrons in the final state also vary, from 0 to quite many, like 6-8. The mean is around 4, depending on what mother nucleus you have and energy of incoming neutron.

electrons will undergo reactions with the protons in the nucleus when they are 'inside' the nucleus, this is called electron capture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_capture
 
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Thank you very much.

One query I have at current, according to
http://aether.lbl.gov/elements/stellar/strong/strong.html

mesons are what hold the nucleons together/reason of the strong nuclear force, yet mesons are not force carriers

Isn't this because they decay in glueons which are the force carriers of strong nuclear force? I've been googling and without my luck, which is strange. Do you knwo the full story of mesons to glueons?

Thanks :)
 


Why are they NOT force carriers? It is easy to construct a theory of hadron interactions where they are the bosons responsible for interactions (see Chiral Perturbation Theory for instance, and meson exchange potential)

The thing is that at hadronic energy scales, QCD is not asymptotic free, so it is hard/meaningless to speak about quarks and gluons, what exists are hadrons; Mesons and Baryons.

Easy lectures:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/9501/9501357v1.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_forceAdvanced lectures:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/0210/0210398v1.pdf
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/hep-ph/pdf/9501/9501357v1.pdfIt is a difference between the strong force (quarks and gluons) and the strong nuclear force (hadrons)

Mesons do NOT decay into gluons...

By the way, it is difficult to understand what you are saying sometimes, I guess English is not your native languange?
 

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