Why Is Calculating the Area in a Parametric Integral Problem Challenging?

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The discussion revolves around a parametric integral problem involving a curve defined by the equations x = t^3 and y = t^2. The original poster is tasked with finding the equation of a tangent line at a specific point and calculating the area bounded by the curve, the tangent, and the y-axis. The challenge lies in the integration process and the discrepancies between the calculated area and the expected answer.

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  • The original poster attempts to express y in terms of x and integrate the resulting equations, but encounters difficulties leading to incorrect results. They question the validity of their approach and the setup of the tangent line.
  • Another participant suggests a different method using the integral of the area between the tangent line and the curve, providing a detailed expression for the area calculation.
  • There is a discussion about the limits of integration and the relationship between the variables in the parametric equations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the area calculation using integrals, while others are exploring different interpretations of the problem. The original poster acknowledges a misunderstanding in their initial approach, indicating a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus has been reached on the best method yet.

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The original poster expresses frustration with the complexity of the problem and the limitations of the example provided in their materials. There is also mention of technical difficulties in accessing certain resources during the discussion.

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This is a question that is bugging me because trying to solve it the spirit of the topic I am on (backed up by one example under simple circumstances and a frustratingly complicated explanation) is proving really difficult. Trying to tackle it on my own terms yields me a wrong answer :frown:

A curve is given parametrically: x= t^3, y= t^2
a tangent to the curve is drawn at the point where t=2
find a) the equation of the tangent
b) the area bounded between the curve, tangent and y-axis

(a) isn't a problem..the answer is 3y = x+4
(b) is a problem though. My first inclination is to express y in terms of x, if x = t^3 then x^(2/3) = t^2 and so y=x^(2/3) or 3y =3(x^(2/3))
now I have two equations with the same variables that I should be able to integrate without a problem subtracting 3(x^(2/3)) from x+4 I get:
x+4 - 3(x^(2/3))...
integrating this w.r.t.x I get [1/2(x^2) +4x - 9/5(x^(5/3))]
as x = t^3, if t = 2 then x = 8 and so my limits should be 0 and 8
plugging x=8 into the above however yields an answer of 6.4, the books answer is 2.13 (and by plotting the damned thing and measuring trapeziums I find that the book answer is correct)

solving it in terms of t though is mega uncomfortable...the book example isn't very helpful and I just don't know what I'm doing.
am I right that the tangent can be expressed as 3t^2=t^3 +4?
Even if this is true how do I work with the curve?
 
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Sure. Since the tangent line is always above the curve, the area is
[tex]\int_0^8 (y_1- y_2)dx[/tex]
where y1 is the line 3y= x+4 and y2 is the parametric curve y= t2. Since x is measured by x= t3, 3y= x+ 4 becomes 3y= t2+ 4 and dx= 3t2dt. Of course, as x goes from 0 to 8, t goes from 0 to 2. The area is:
[tex]\int_0^2(\frac{1}{3}t^3+ \frac{4}{3}- t^2)(3t^2)dt= \int_0^2(\t^5+ 4t^2- 3t^4)dt[/tex]
That is
[tex]\frac{1}{6}t^6+ \frac{4}{3}t^3- \frac{3}{5}t^5[/tex]
evaluated between 0 and 2:
[tex]\frac{64}{6}+ \frac{32}{3}- \frac{96}{5}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{32}{3}+ \frac{32}{3}- \frac{96}{5}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{64}{3}- \frac{96}{5}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{320- 288}{15}= \frac{32}{15}= 2 \frac{2}{15}[/tex]
 
lol...just my luck!...Thanks for replying HallsofIvy! but this computer won't display the laTeX graphics...and I get booted off in 5 mins, going to need to travel a bit before I can find another computer and read the full reply. :frown:
 
HallsofIvy...Thankyou very much for working through it :smile: (though I had to hit the quote button so that I could read the TeX :biggrin: )
I realize also, the reason why my first attempt was wrong...I should not have worked in terms of 3y instead should have worked in terms of just y...one of those things I just couldn't see at the time.
Thanks again!
 
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