Why is cos(t)(cos(wt) - jsin(wt)) considered negligible in integration?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a function involving trigonometric components, specifically focusing on the expression cos(t)(cos(wt) - jsin(wt)). Participants are exploring the properties of odd and even functions in the context of integration, particularly why certain terms are considered negligible.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the odd-even properties of trigonometric functions during integration. Questions are raised about the validity of certain expressions and the implications of function periodicity. There is also a discussion about the nature of the function being integrated and its behavior over the specified interval.

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Some participants have provided insights regarding the properties of the functions involved, noting that certain terms are odd functions and thus integrate to zero over symmetric intervals. Others are questioning the correctness of specific expressions and seeking clarification on the definitions being used.

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There is a mention of the function Θ(t) and its implications in the context of the problem, suggesting that assumptions about its behavior are under scrutiny. The discussion also indicates that participants are referencing course literature that may not adequately cover the topic at hand.

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Homework Statement


Hi,

I'm having a problem comprehending the odd-even trigonometry properties when doing an integration and I hope someone here feel like explaining since I can't seem to find anything of this in my course literature.
I suppose it's more or less of a integration problem.

f(t) = (cost)(Θ(t + \frac{\pi}{2}) - Θ(t - \frac{\pi}{2}))

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When doing the integration of:
\int (cost)(coswt - jsinwt) dt from -pi/2 \rightarrow +pi/2
(The period is pi and the function is obviously even)

Why do they then consider cost * -jsinwt to be negligible and equal to 0?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+cost*e^iwt+dt+from+-pi/2+to+pi/2
 
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Gliese123 said:

Homework Statement


Hi,

I'm having a problem comprehending the odd-even trigonometry properties when doing an integration and I hope someone here feel like explaining since I can't seem to find anything of this in my course literature.
I suppose it's more or less of a integration problem.

f(t) = (cost)(Θ(t + \frac{\pi}{2}) - Θ(t - \frac{\pi}{2}))

Are you sure this is correct?

##Θ(t + \frac{\pi}{2}) - Θ(t - \frac{\pi}{2}) = Θ \pi##
 
PeroK said:
Are you sure this is correct?

##Θ(t + \frac{\pi}{2}) - Θ(t - \frac{\pi}{2}) = Θ \pi##
Yes. The function stretches from -pi/2 --> pi/2
It's cut off
 
Gliese123 said:

Homework Statement


Hi,

I'm having a problem comprehending the odd-even trigonometry properties when doing an integration and I hope someone here feel like explaining since I can't seem to find anything of this in my course literature.
I suppose it's more or less of a integration problem.

f(t) = (cost)(Θ(t + \frac{\pi}{2}) - Θ(t - \frac{\pi}{2}))

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



When doing the integration of:
\int (cost)(coswt - jsinwt) dt from -pi/2 \rightarrow +pi/2
(The period is pi and the function is obviously even)

Why do they then consider cost * -jsinwt to be negligible and equal to 0?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+cost*e^iwt+dt+from+-pi/2+to+pi/2

1. ##\cos t(\cos\omega t - j\sin\omega t)## is neither even nor odd (w.r.t. ##t##), and its periodicity (as a function of ##t##) depends on ##\omega##.

2. ##\cos\omega t-i\sin\omega t=e^{-i\omega t}##

3. ##\cos t\cdot (-j)\sin\omega t## is an odd function (w.r.t. ##t##), so ##\int_{-a}^a \cos t\cdot (-j)\sin\omega t\ dt=0## for any real ##a##. In particular, ##\int_{-\pi/2}^{\pi/2} \cos t\cdot (-j)\sin\omega t\ dt=0##.

PeroK said:
Are you sure this is correct?

##Θ(t + \frac{\pi}{2}) - Θ(t - \frac{\pi}{2}) = Θ \pi##

I would assume, from context, that ##\Theta## is a function of ##t## here.
 
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gopher_p said:
1. ##\cos t(\cos\omega t - j\sin\omega t)## is neither even nor odd (w.r.t. ##t##), and its periodicity (as a function of ##t##) depends on ##\omega##.

2. ##\cos\omega t-i\sin\omega t=e^{-i\omega t}##

3. ##\cos t\cdot (-j)\sin\omega t## is an odd function (w.r.t. ##t##), so ##\int_{-a}^a \cos t\cdot (-j)\sin\omega t\ dt=0## for any real ##a##. In particular, ##\int_{-\pi/2}^{\pi/2} \cos t\cdot (-j)\sin\omega t\ dt=0##.



I would assume, from context, that ##\Theta## is a function of ##t## here.
Thanks. Seems logical :)
 

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