Why is inertia not stopping acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of inertia and its relationship to acceleration, exploring whether inertia can be considered a counterforce and the implications of this perspective. Participants engage in a technical examination of inertia, its definitions, and related experimental inquiries.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define inertia as the resistance to changes in motion, questioning the nature of this resistance and its implications for acceleration.
  • Others assert that inertia is not a counterforce but rather a measure of how difficult it is to change an object's speed and direction, referencing Newton's second law.
  • A participant proposes a theory that inertia might involve a time lag between force and acceleration, suggesting that this could lead to a feedback loop in the force-acceleration relationship.
  • There are references to historical experiments related to the equivalence principle and mass-acceleration relationships, with some participants indicating that such experiments have been conducted for centuries.
  • Some participants express frustration with the understanding of inertia among others in the discussion, suggesting that deeper exploration is needed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether inertia can be considered a counterforce. While some assert that it is not, one participant maintains that it is, leading to a contested discussion without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for further experimental evidence regarding the nature of inertia and its relationship with acceleration, indicating that existing definitions and understandings may not fully capture the complexities involved.

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Inertia is the resistance of any physical object to any change in its state of motion, including changes to its speed and direction.
It is kind of counterforce which is resisting the change of speed.
But when there is this counterforce which is at the same level as force causing the acceleration, why is acceleration actually possible? Is this because there is some time lag between force causing acceleration and inertia counterforce? Have there been some experiments about this topic?
Or is there some other explanation? But what I know, cause of inertia itself have not been explained yet.
 
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This "counterforce" is not a force, which is exactly the misconception here.
You need force to get acceleration, done.
 
In an inertial frame there is no counterforce.
 
Inertia is not a kind of counterforce. It is a measure of how hard it is to change an object's speed and direction(thus its acceleration).
From Newton's second law F = ma, we can see that inertia is proportional to the object's mass. For example, it is harder to change a train's motion than to change a car's motion.
 
OK, we can agree, that you all are saying that inertia is not counterforce and I am saying that it is. You are simply stating the mainstream opinion a that's it for you, no need to think about it more deeply.

But I guess we can all agree, that you don't know what inertia is and what is causing it.
Im trying to develop some theory explaining it and I am searching for experiments which would help me to explain it.

I know, that for example, there were detailed experiments about Equivalence principle between gravity mass and inertial mass. But have there been some detailed experiments about mass and acceleration, maybe extremely detailed time line of acceleration?
So IF inertia would be some kind of counterforce, mathematically it would be still the same F=ma, but maybe there would be some implications, like there would be some time lag between force and counterforce. This could also mean that maybe there would be also some time lag between force and acceleration. Were there some experiments about this topic? Or is there maybe some acceleration-quantum behavior? Like steps in acceleration time line which would be caused by feedback loop force-acceleration-counterforce?
 
SpiderET said:
OK, we can agree, that you all are saying that inertia is not counterforce and I am saying that it is. You are simply stating the mainstream opinion a that's it for you, no need to think about it more deeply.
No, they are saying something that they understand and you don't because you are the one asking about a difficulty that arises from your understanding of it.

But I guess we can all agree, that you don't know what inertia is and what is causing it.
I'm sorry, did you actually intend to use the word "you" here?

Im trying to develop some theory explaining it and I am searching for experiments which would help me to explain it.

I know, that for example, there were detailed experiments about Equivalence principle between gravity mass and inertial mass. But have there been some detailed experiments about mass and acceleration, maybe extremely detailed time line of acceleration?
Actually, yes, starting with Gallileo, about 400 years ago.

So IF inertia would be some kind of counterforce, mathematically it would be still the same F=ma, but maybe there would be some implications, like there would be some time lag between force and counterforce. This could also mean that maybe there would be also some time lag between force and acceleration. Were there some experiments about this topic?
Yes, again about 400 years of such experiments.

[quote\ Or is there maybe some acceleration-quantum behavior? Like steps in acceleration time line which would be caused by feedback loop force-acceleration-counterforce?[/QUOTE]
Perhaps if you learned some basic physics first, you wouldn't have to ask such elementary questions. It also might be a good idea NOT to insult the people you are asking by making assertions about what they do or do not know.
 
SpiderET said:
But I guess we can all agree, that you don't know what inertia is and what is causing it.

I think it is pretty well known what inertia is.
eifphysics said:
Inertia is not a kind of counterforce. It is a measure of how hard it is to change an object's speed and direction(thus its acceleration).
This is basically the definition I was taught.

Your current attitude towards physics will do you no favors, Spider. I think everyone in this thread knows significantly more physics than you or me. Sometimes you just have to accept some things at face value even if it does not instantly make sense to you.
 
SpiderET said:
Im trying to develop some theory
That is not the purpose of this forum. Thread closed.
 

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