Why Is My Calculated Error for Resonant Frequency So High?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the error in the resonant frequency for an LC circuit, where the inductor and capacitor values are provided with their respective uncertainties. The original poster is attempting to reconcile their calculated error with experimental observations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculations for resonant frequency and the associated error, questioning the values used and the methods applied. There is a focus on understanding the derivation of the error terms and the implications of using specific values in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications regarding the calculations and the interpretation of the error terms. There is an ongoing exploration of the fractional errors and their impact on the final results, with no explicit consensus reached on the correctness of the initial calculations.

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Participants note potential confusion arising from the units of measurement and the handling of significant figures in the calculations. There is also mention of the original poster's data being complex, which may contribute to the discrepancies observed in the error calculations.

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Homework Statement



So I am calculating the error for something and I am getting really weird values.
So I know that the value for the Inductor is 24.97 +- 0.005 mH and that for the capacitor is 105.7+-0.0005 nf.

So I am finding the value for the resonant frequency

Homework Equations



f_0 = 1/(2*pi*sqrt(LC))


The Attempt at a Solution



So for the f_0 I get 3097 Hz which is very close to my experimental observations. But for the error I get:

error in LC = (2.64e-9) * sqrt((0.005/24.97)^2+(0.0005/105.7)^2) = 5.29e-13

error in LC^-.5: (19464.95)*0.5*2.64e-8/5.29e-13 = 37994

final error: 37994 * 1/(2*pi) = 6039.

Now this final value is too high, what am I doing wrong? Thanks
 
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ma18 said:
error in LC = (1.03e-8) * sqrt((0.005/24.97)^2+(0.0005/105.7)^2) = 5.29e-13
I don't see where the 1.03e-8 comes from. LC is about 2.6e-6, no?
error in LC^-.5: (19464.95)*0.5*1.03e-8/5.29e-13 = 37994
What's the reason for dividing by 5.29e-13? It would be clearer if you were to write the equation in purely symbolic form, not plugging in numbers.
 
Sure, sorry. The 1.03e-8 is the LC value and the following values in the equation are the error divided by the value. For the second equation 19464.95 is the LC^-.5 is the value and 0.5 is the exponent and 5.29e-13 is the error in LC^-0.5.

The eqn's are:

for multiplication (z=xy): dz = z *sqrt((dx/x)^2+(dy/y)^2)

for exponents (z=x^y): dz = abs(y)*z*dx/x
 
ma18 said:
Sure, sorry. The 1.03e-8 is the LC value
Isn't LC = 24.97 * 105.7e-9?
for exponents (z=x^y): dz = abs(y)*z*dx/x
Sure, but when you plugged in the numbers you seem to have used x/dx instead of dx/x.
 
L is in mH so there is an extra 10^-3 factor I forgot note here. I wrote down the exponent thing wrong here but the number is right, it should be:

error in LC^-.5:
value*exponent*error_LC/LC
= (19464.95)*0.5*2.64e-8/5.29e-13 = 37994

ah there are so many numbers in my sheet I get mixed up
 
Alright I think I've got it, my data was just too ugly, I cleaned it up and did it another sheet.

I got:

Error in LC: 5.29E-13
LC: 2.64E-09
LC^-0.5: 1.95E+04
Error in LC^-.5: 1.95E+00
Error in final : 3.10E-01

which ironically seems a little small but whatever.

Thanks for the help!
 
I find it easier to think in terms of fractional errors. (Mistakes in the calculation usually become more obvious.)
The fractional error in LC is 5.29E-13/2.64E-09 ~ 2E-4 (almost entirely owing to the error in L).
The fractional error in sqrt(LC) will be half that: 1E-4.
The fractional error in f_0 will also be 1E-4, giving an absolute error of ~ 3E3 * 1E-4 = 3E-1.
That confirms your answer.
 
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