Why Is My Calculation of the Net Force on q1 Incorrect?

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The discussion centers on calculating the net force on charge q1 (6.7 μC) due to other charges q2 (-4.5 μC), q3 (2.2 μC), and q4 (2.2 μC) positioned at a distance of 7.7 cm. The user calculated the force exerted on q1 by q2 as -45.258 N and the force from q4 as 22.126 N, subsequently determining the x-component of the net force to be -23.132 N. However, the user received feedback from SmartPhysics indicating the calculation was incorrect, prompting a request for assistance in identifying potential errors in their approach.

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Homework Statement



q1= 6.7 μC
q2= -4.5 μC
q3= 2.2 μC
q4= 2.2 μC
d= 7.7 cmWhat is the x-component of the net force on q1?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



This is part of an online problem set, and is currently the only question I have not answered correctly. I find it strange because I have approached it the same way as similar problems in the problem set (ex. What is the x-component of the net force on q2?) so I have a hard time understanding where I am going wrong. Perhaps someone can help, so here goes my thought process.

So the obvious one to start with is the force exerted on q1 by q2 since the x-component is the entire force. Plugging in values of q1= 6.7 μC, q2= -4.5 μC and d= 0.077m to the above equation gives a force of -45.258 N. Moving on to the force on q1 by q4. By plugging in q1= 6.7 μC and q2= 2.2 μC with d= 0.077m we get 22.126 N for the entire force. To get the x-component of this force, I then multiplied by cos(60) because it is an equilateral triangle and got an answer of 11.063 N. Since q3=q4 and they are at the same distance from q1 with the same angle, I assumed the x-components of their forces would be the same, so i multiplied by 2 and got back to 22.126 N once again. When adding them all up, I get 22.126 - 45.258 = -23.132 N. SmartPhysics says this is wrong. I disagree! What do you guys think? Have I made a very obvious mistake somewhere along the way?
 
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Homework Statement


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q1= 6.7 μC
q2= -4.5 μC
q3= 2.2 μC
q4= 2.2 μC
d= 7.7 cm

What is the x-component of the net force on q1?

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



This is part of an online problem set, and is currently the only question I have not answered correctly. I find it strange because I have approached it the same way as similar problems in the problem set (ex. What is the x-component of the net force on q2?) so I have a hard time understanding where I am going wrong. Perhaps someone can help, so here goes my thought process.

So the obvious one to start with is the force exerted on q1 by q2 since the x-component is the entire force. Plugging in values of q1= 6.7 μC, q2= -4.5 μC and d= 0.077m to the above equation gives a force of -45.258 N. Moving on to the force on q1 by q4. By plugging in q1= 6.7 μC and q2= 2.2 μC with d= 0.077m we get 22.126 N for the entire force. To get the x-component of this force, I then multiplied by cos(60) because it is an equilateral triangle and got an answer of 11.063 N. Since q3=q4 and they are at the same distance from q1 with the same angle, I assumed the x-components of their forces would be the same, so i multiplied by 2 and got back to 22.126 N once again. When adding them all up, I get 22.126 - 45.258 = -23.132 N. SmartPhysics says this is wrong. I disagree! What do you guys think? Have I made a very obvious mistake somewhere along the way?
Use symmetry to compare the vertical component of force exerted by q3 to that exerted by q4 .
 
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