Why is the current not zero in part e of this Kirchoff's Law problem?

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The discussion revolves around a circuit analysis problem related to Kirchhoff's Law, specifically addressing the behavior of current in a circuit with a capacitor after a switch has been closed for an extended period.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of a closed switch on current flow, questioning why the current I3 is not zero and whether the circuit behaves like a short circuit or an open circuit when the capacitor is fully charged.

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There are multiple interpretations of the circuit behavior being explored, with some participants asserting that the current should be zero while others challenge this view. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of terminology in circuit analysis.

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Some participants express frustration over previous performance on related problems and the need for attempts to be shown in the homework context. There is also mention of differing answers obtained from external sources, indicating uncertainty in the understanding of the problem.

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http://i.imgur.com/EFciS60.png

How do you do part e? Also can someone explain why the current I3 isn't 0 if the switch has been closed for a long time? Doesn't it behave like a short circuit if the switch is closed because the capacitor becomes fully charged and the current becomes zero ish?
 
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Regtic said:
http://i.imgur.com/EFciS60.png

How do you do part e?
This is simple circuit analysis. You have to show an attempt yourself.

Also can someone explain why the current I3 isn't 0 if the switch has been closed for a long time?
If the switch has been closed for a long time that current is zero.

Doesn't it behave like a short circuit if the switch is closed because the capacitor becomes fully charged and the current becomes zero ish?
No, it becomes an OPEN circuit and the current is zeor-ish.

Craaap sorry I just realized I posted this in the wrong forum. Wish I could delete the thread and repost it in the HW forum.
Yes, and you should have shown some attempt at your own work in the homework template.
 
phinds said:
This is simple circuit analysis. You have to show an attempt yourself.


If the switch has been closed for a long time that current is zero.


No, it becomes an OPEN circuit and the current is zeor-ish.


Yes, and you should have shown some attempt at your own work in the homework template.

Oh this was from a test, I could have shown it but I got 5.5/10 on it so it wasn't very useful.
 
phinds said:
No, it becomes an OPEN circuit and the current is zeor-ish.

What's the difference? I thought they were the same thing? They both mean the switch is open no?
 
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Regtic said:
What's the difference? I thought they were the same thing? They both mean the switch is open no?

Do you understand that a short circuit and an open circuit are not the same thing? Sloppy terminology results from and/or causes sloppy thinking, so saying that a short circuit and an open circuit are the same thing is not a good idea.
 
phinds said:
Do you understand that a short circuit and an open circuit are not the same thing? Sloppy terminology results from and/or causes sloppy thinking, so saying that a short circuit and an open circuit are the same thing is not a good idea.

Ya no kidding...
 
Do you guys think these answers are correct? I posted the problem to chegg but I have like 3 different answers. I think this one might might be legit, but I don't know if it's really discharging or not. I think it's charging up because it's an open circuit and current is trying to pass through it but it's fully charged. I don't understand what he did for part D so I think that's wrong, but everything else is legit.

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(or on imgur)
http://i.imgur.com/KxAoeQ4.jpg?2
 
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