Why is the Length Element in Ampere's Law Perpendicular to the Current?

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The discussion centers on the orientation of the length element vector (d𝑠) in Ampere's Law, clarifying that it does not need to be parallel to the current. Participants note that d𝑠 is defined based on the chosen integration path, which can be circular or otherwise, making it tangent to that path. The relationship between d𝑠 and the current is contextual; for a circular path, the current is perpendicular to the plane of integration, leading to d𝑠 being perpendicular as well. The conversation also distinguishes between Ampere's Law and the Biot-Savart Law, emphasizing that while both relate to magnetic fields, they apply different integration paths. Understanding these principles is essential for correctly applying Ampere's Law in various scenarios.
  • #31
nasu said:
It does not have to be in any way. It is up to you to choose the integration path according to the problem you try to solve. ##d\vec{s}## is the path element for any path, no matter what is the problem to be solved. You pick the integration path to solve the problem, usualy to solve it in the easiest way. You need to understand how the laws used (here Biot-Savart and Ampere) work in order to understand how do you choose the integration path. Once you do that, you don't have to make any choice about ##d\vec{s}##. It is tangent to the chosen path.
Can ##\vec{ds}## also be though of as the displacement of a positive test using the right hand rule?
 
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  • #32
Nway said:
Can ##\vec{ds}## also be though of as the displacement of a positive test using the right hand rule?
I don't know what you mean by this.
 
  • #33
Nway said:
Can ##\vec{ds}## also be though of as the displacement of a positive test using the right hand rule?
No, ##\displaystyle \vec{ds}## cannot be thought of as the displacement of a positive test charge, using the right hand rule?

In using Ampere's law, you are integrating the magnetic field along a closed path.
 

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