Why Is There Little Helium in Earth's Atmosphere?

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The discussion revolves around the scarcity of helium gas in Earth's atmosphere, particularly in the context of its escape velocity and kinetic theory. The original poster attempts to calculate the root mean square speed of helium gas at a temperature of 2000 K to understand this phenomenon.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the rms speed of helium and its implications regarding the escape velocity. There are questions about the velocity distribution of gas particles and how it relates to the escape velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants confirming the calculations made by the original poster while others seek further clarification on the implications of the results. There is a focus on understanding why helium is not prevalent in the atmosphere, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which requires them to explore physical concepts and calculations without providing direct solutions. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the calculated velocity and the escape velocity.

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Homework Statement


There is almost no helium gas in the earth’s atmosphere - indeed the price of He has increased in
recent times due to worries about a limited supply. (Bad news for parties and for all the scientists
who use liquid He as a coolant.) we know that the “escape velocity” required
to escape from the earth’s gravitational field is ⇠11.2km/s. Explain using physical concepts,
and kinetic theory in particular, why there is very little He gas in the atmosphere. Start by
calculating the root mean square (rms) speed of Helium (He) gas in the upper atmosphere,
assuming a temperature of 2000 K. Note that the atomic weight of He' 4, where 1 atomic mass
unit = 1.67 ⇥ 10−27kg

Homework Equations


v=sqrt(3kt/m

The Attempt at a Solution


I did the equation since we were given K is constant 1.38x10^-23 J/k i subbed the value inside and I got
v=sqrt(3(1.38x10^-23)(2000)/6.644x10^-27) Note I did find mass using mm and avogardos number. I got number of 3530.2m/s and escape velocity is in km/s that is if it converted to m/s it's way higher than the velocity calculated which doesn't make sense. I expected velocity to be higher... any help is appereciated :)
 
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The number you calculated is correct. Remember that you are only calculating the rms velocity. What can you say about the velocity distribution?
 
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It's lower than the veloicty escape? which is 11.2kms which is around 11.2k m/s?
 
DrClaude said:
distribution
Or, range.
 
Am i right then?
 
Derek1997 said:
Am i right then?
Well, you haven't answered the question. Why is there little helium in the atmosphere?
 

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