Why is this force considered in the moment equation?

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This discussion centers on the application of the moment equation in statics, specifically regarding the inclusion of forces in the calculation of moments about a point. The participant initially miscalculated the force in member BC by excluding the horizontal component of force FA and incorrectly assessing the relevance of the 30k force. The correct moment equation used by the professor incorporates all acting forces, leading to the accurate determination of FBC. The key takeaway is the necessity of considering all force components and their respective lever arms when applying the moment equation.

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After reviewing a quiz I had in Statics, I realized I did not understand why a certain force was considered in the moments equation. If a force goes directly through the point of the moment, it is not considered when solving for a force using moments.

The question is asking us to use the method of sections by splitting the truss from section 1-1 and find the force in member BC.

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ΣMH=0
By the way, I substituted kips for k.

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ΣME=0 → -Ay(60 ft) +(40k)(45 ft)+ (40k)(30 ft)+ (40k)(15 ft)-(30k)(20 ft)=0.
Ay=50k.

The equation I would have used to find FBC: ΣMH=0 → -50k(15 ft) + FBC(20 ft)=0.
The equation the professor used to get the correct answer for the force along member BC: ΣMH=0 → (-30k)(20 ft) -50k(15 ft) + FBC(20 ft)=0

Why is the 30k force considered when it points directly into H? I understand it being used to find the moment about E, but not for the moment about H. Also, why is the lever arm distance 20 ft when the force is right at H?
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I can't see how the professor came up with the equation that he/she did. Your equation looks correct to me.
 
Jarvis88 said:
The equation I would have used to find FBC: ΣMH=0 →

You have not taken into account the horizontal component of FA.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
You have not taken into account the horizontal component of FA.
I looked at this for, not a long time, but a fair amount of time, considering, "Is there any other force that I am not seeing?" And still I missed it. :(
 
Hint: It's NOT the 30kips force at H they are using in the moments equation. My guess is you hadn't drawn a FBD of the bridge showing all the forces acting on it.
 

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