Why is View Through Glass Window Not Dimmed?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why views through a glass window are not significantly dimmed compared to an open window. Participants explore the properties of glass, including its refractive index, light absorption, and reflection characteristics, as well as the perception of light intensity by the human eye.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the view through glass is not noticeably dimmer, noting the refractive index of glass.
  • Another participant states that glass does not absorb or reflect much light, suggesting this contributes to the clarity of the view.
  • Contrarily, a different participant asserts that ordinary glass does absorb light, especially in the UV range, and highlights the need for specialized materials like quartz to allow UV transmission.
  • A participant introduces the Fresnel relation to explain the small percentage of reflection at the air-glass interface, while also referencing Feynman's insights as potentially more accurate.
  • One participant argues that while glass does dim the view, the change is not noticeable to the human eye due to its logarithmic response to light intensity.
  • Another participant mentions that a typical 4% change in intensity from air to glass reflection is not easily perceived by human vision.
  • There is a humorous remark about the inability to tan through a window, linking it to the absorption characteristics of glass.
  • Participants discuss the implications of UV transmission through glass, with one questioning the desire for UV transmission while another mentions the necessity for UV transparency in specific experimental setups.
  • A participant references the Newtonian telescope, emphasizing that glass absorption affects brightness in astronomical observations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the extent to which glass absorbs and reflects light, with some asserting minimal impact on visibility while others emphasize the absorption characteristics of glass. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall effects of glass on light transmission.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about light absorption and reflection depend on specific conditions and definitions, such as the type of glass and the wavelengths considered. The discussion includes varying perspectives on human perception of light intensity changes.

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If light reflects from all surfaces, why is the view through a glass window not noticeably dimmer than the view with the window open?

Can someone give me som hint? I know glass has a refractive index of 1.5...
 
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The glass does not absorb very much light, and does not reflect very much light.

A strawberry absorbs wavelength's other than red. That is why it looks red to you.

A black object absorbs most of the light that comes at it, so it looks black.
 
Ordinary glass DOES absorbs light, espeically in the UV range. We pay a lot of money to get quartz and fused silica to let UV light passes through. There's no material that I know off that let's light of all frequency to pass through.

Zz.
 
this is fresnel relaction, as you can see the percent of reflection is very small.

[tex]R=(\frac{n_1-n_0}{n_1+n_0})^2[/tex]

but this is just the classical vies of things, (its pretty accurate, but feyman got it better)
 
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physicsss said:
If light reflects from all surfaces, why is the view through a glass window not noticeably dimmer than the view with the window open?

Can someone give me som hint? I know glass has a refractive index of 1.5...

It IS dimmer, just not necessarily "noticable" through "human" eyes. I know of no glass(or any substance for that matter) that transmits light with no loss.
 
Our eyes are logarithmic detectors - that is, they are capable of measuring light intensities over many orders of magnitude. As such, a 4% change in intensity (typical for air-glass reflection) is not readily apparent to the naked eye, as it would be for a linear detector such as a photodiode.

Claude.
 
ZapperZ said:
Ordinary glass DOES absorbs light, espeically in the UV range. We pay a lot of money to get quartz and fused silica to let UV light passes through. There's no material that I know off that let's light of all frequency to pass through.

Zz.

I guess that's why I can't get a tan through the window...:-p
 
Why would we want glass to transmit UV?
Don't we want to protect ourselves from UV radiation? (it may cause sunburn! :redface:)
 
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bomba923 said:
Why would we want glass to transmit UV?
Don't we want to protect ourselves from UV radiation? (it may cause sunburn! :redface:)

I have a laser that is in the UV range. But my experiment is done in ultra-high vacuum. I'll give you ONE guess on why I would need a fused silica window somewhere on my vacuum chamber.

Zz.
 
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The Newtonian telescope is based on the fact that glass does absorb light.

A Newtonian is different from other types of telescopes in that it uses mirrors rather than lenses. Every lens the light passes through costs you a fraction of precious, precious brightness, which is what astronomy is all about.
 

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