Why must the Higgs' gauge symmetry be broken?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of spontaneous symmetry breaking in the context of the Higgs mechanism, particularly focusing on the nature of the Higgs potential, its ground states, and the implications for gauge symmetry. Participants explore the relationship between the shape of the potential and the breaking of symmetry, as well as the role of gauge fixing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that the spontaneous symmetry breaking of the Higgs leads to a 'Mexican hat' potential with two non-zero stable equilibria.
  • Others argue that the potential has a continuum of minima rather than just two, suggesting a more complex structure that includes multiple Goldstone bosons.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of fixing the gauge using a condensate, with some participants questioning why this is needed if the ground states are degenerate.
  • Some clarify that the choice of a specific ground state breaks gauge symmetry, indicating that while the theory exhibits invariance, the actual ground state does not.
  • Participants emphasize that spontaneous symmetry breaking is a result of the shape of the potential rather than a cause of it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the Higgs potential and the implications of gauge fixing. There is no consensus on the exact interpretation of the ground states or the necessity of gauge fixing, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of the Higgs potential and its properties, which may not be universally accepted. The discussion reflects various assumptions about the dimensionality of the potential and the implications for Goldstone bosons.

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The part I understand:

I understand that the spontaneous symmetry breaking of the Higgs produces the 'Mexican hat' potential, with two non-zero stable equilibria.

I understand that as the Higgs is a complex field, there exists a phase component of the field. Under gauge transformations of this Higgs potential (in particular the rotation: \phi \rightarrow \phi_0 e^{i \theta}), you are simply moving between the degenerate ground state of this potential, where this motion simply generates the massless Goldstone bosons, and hence the potential is gauge invariant.

The part I do not understand:

You must now fix the gauge by using a condensate, such that the rotations are gauge variant as "you want the Higgs to take a specific value". I don't understand what you must fix the gauge. As the ground states are all degenerate, surely the Higgs already has a specific value? Please do not use the Lagrangian to explain it! Thank you in advance!
 
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epsilon said:
You must now fix the gauge by using a condensate, such that the rotations are gauge variant as "you want the Higgs to take a specific value". I don't understand what you must fix the gauge. As the ground states are all degenerate, surely the Higgs already has a specific value?
It is not that the potential becomes gauge variant, it is that the ground state is degenerate and one particular choice will be implemented in nature. This choice is not going to respect gauge symmetry and therefore the ground state is not gauge invariant. This is why it is called spontaneous symmetry breaking - the theory itself displays the invariance but the ground state of the theory breaks it.
 
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epsilon said:
I understand that the spontaneous symmetry breaking of the Higgs produces the 'Mexican hat' potential, with two non-zero stable equilibria.
Spontaneous symmetry breaking happens due to the shape of the potential, not the other way round.
 
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Orodruin said:
It is not that the potential becomes gauge variant, it is that the ground state is degenerate and one particular choice will be implemented in nature. This choice is not going to respect gauge symmetry and therefore the ground state is not gauge invariant. This is why it is called spontaneous symmetry breaking - the theory itself displays the invariance but the ground state of the theory breaks it.

Thank you for your answer, you cleared up the misunderstanding that I had!
 
mfb said:
Spontaneous symmetry breaking happens due to the shape of the potential, not the other way round.

Thank you! This is why it wasn't making sense.
 
epsilon said:
The part I understand:

I understand that the spontaneous symmetry breaking of the Higgs produces the 'Mexican hat' potential, with two non-zero stable equilibria.

The potential has that shape from the beginning; and there aren't two non-zero minima - there is a continuum of them. The "mexican hat" is IIUC five-dimensional - the "trough" is not one-dimensional as it would be in 3D-case, but has three directions along which potential stays at minimum, their existence creates three Goldstone bosons. The fourth direction is the Higgs particle.
 
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