Undergrad Why particles have group velocity?

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Particles cannot be accurately described by a single wave function due to the limitations of unnormalizable wave functions, which possess infinitely sharp momentum but no defined position. Instead, wave packets, which are sums of multiple wave functions with varying phase velocities, provide a more accurate representation, allowing for defined position and momentum with associated variances. This concept is essential in quantum mechanics, as it bridges the gap between quantum behavior and classical physics. Wave packets can be understood through Fourier transforms, illustrating how complex wave functions can be constructed from simpler components. Ultimately, the use of wave packets is crucial for a coherent understanding of particle behavior in quantum mechanics.
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I just confused about it.Why can't we discribe a particle just one wave function instead of wave packet(group of waves with different phase velocities)?
 
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And how would you do that ?
Can you quote context, reference, example ?
 
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My referance is Quantum Mechanics Concepts and Applications
Second Education written by Nouredine Zettili
Page is 38 section 1.8 Wave Packets
 
Doesn't help me.

In general:
A single wave function for a particle is generally a summation (integral) with an average position and average momentum.
A single wave of the type ##\psi = e^{ikx}## is unnormalizable in ##x##, has infinitely sharp momentum (##\hbar k##) but no position.

A wave packet (e.a gaussian wave packet, which google) has a position (with some variance) and a momentum (with some variance). A phase velocity and a group velocity.
 
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arda said:
I just confused about it.Why can't we discribe a particle just one wave function instead of wave packet(group of waves with different phase velocities)?
A wave packet is one wave function. But it can be written as a sum of other, simpler wave functions. This sum is nothing but the Fourier expansion (or transform) of the wave function. It is not much different from the fact that 375 is one number, but it can be written as a sum of simpler numbers as
$$375 = 3\cdot 100 + 7\cdot 10 + 5\cdot 1$$
With an abuse of language, someone could say that 375 is a "packet" of numbers.
 
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Actually, we describe particles using wave functions. For example, with electrons in solid state physics, we basically solve Schrödinger equation to get eigenvalues and eigenfunctions. However, the picture of the wave function is something spreaded in the whole solid which is inconsistent with classical concept of electrons. So we use the wave packet to explain the transition from the quantum mechanics to classical picture.
 
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