Why particles in a bubble chamber seam to disappear?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of particles appearing to disappear in a bubble chamber, with a focus on the role of antimatter and the processes involved in particle interactions and annihilations. Participants explore theoretical aspects, experimental observations, and the implications of particle decay and annihilation events.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that antimatter particles may explain why tracks in a bubble chamber seem to disappear, questioning how antimatter is identified when contained.
  • One participant inquires whether 100% of the mass energy of matter and antimatter is converted into energy during annihilation, mentioning the production of neutrinos and gamma rays.
  • Another participant explains that when particles and antiparticles annihilate, they typically produce photons, with their emission direction influenced by the initial motion of the particles involved.
  • It is noted that neutral particles resulting from interactions do not leave tracks in the bubble chamber, but may eventually decay into charged particles that do.
  • One participant describes the annihilation of antibaryons, such as anti-protons, with protons, resulting in the production of pions and photons, with specific details about the tracks left by charged pions.
  • Another participant discusses simulations of pi0 decay in proton-proton collisions, noting the characteristics of the gamma spectrum produced and its dependence on the boost of the pi0 in the collision frame.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the processes involved in particle disappearance in bubble chambers, with no consensus reached on the explanations or implications of these phenomena. Multiple competing views remain, particularly regarding the specifics of particle interactions and the nature of emitted radiation.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about particle interactions and decay processes that may not be fully resolved, including the conditions under which certain particles are produced and detected in bubble chambers.

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are antimatter particles the explanation for why particles in a bubble chamber seam to disappear? I've read some on antimatter and supposedly some of it's been contained, how do they know what they have is antimatter?

so many things theyre all confusing
 
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If someone answers dangerbird's question can someone answer my question too?

When antimatter and matter react and turn into energy, is 100% of the mass energy of both antimatter and matter converted into energy? I heard somewhere that something is produced, a neutrino? I have been told that the energy released is in the form of radiation, a gamma ray. If so, is the gamma ray(s) emitted in all directions from the point of annihilation? If there are multiple gamma rays, wouldn't they be emitted at the same time? What would dictate the direction of the gamma ray(s)?
 


The reason for why tracks in bubble chambers seem to disappear are many, if you provide an example of an reaction we can guide you.There is no such thing that *pure* energy, so there is always a conversion. When a particle and an antiparticle annihilate, it will create two photons if they annihilate via the electromagnetic force. The photons are sent back to back in the centre of mass system. The direction of the gamma rays in the lab-frame, in which we observe them, are decided by the relative initial motion of the particle and the antiparticle.

If there are two leptons, one lepton and one anti-lepton, they can annihilate via the weak force as well - creating two neutrinos via a virtual z_boson exchange.

Similar, two quarks, one quark and one anti-quark can annihilate into gluons etc. since they also have the strong interaction.
 


Thank you very much for answering my question.
 


dangerbird said:
are antimatter particles the explanation for why particles in a bubble chamber seam to disappear? I've read some on antimatter and supposedly some of it's been contained, how do they know what they have is antimatter?
Charged particles in bubble chambers leave tracks by virtue of ioniziation of the atoms of the saturated vapor in the bubble chamber. The disappearance of a track means that a charged particle has interacted with another charged particle of an opposite charge, e.g. a π- interacts with a proton p and forms neutral particle(s), e.g. Λo and Ko. Neutral particles do not leave tracks, but eventually most decay to charged particles, which do leave tracks.
 


When antibaryons (e.g., anti proton) stop in a bubble chamber, it annihilates with a proton, and all of the energy is converted into pions, (plus, zero, and minus) the charged pions leave tracks ("star"), while the pi zero immediately usually decays into two 67 MeV photons. A stopping proton leaves only a dense track due to heavy ionization (Bragg peak).
 


hmm I have simulated pi0 decay produced in pp collisions, and that gamma-spectrum is very continuous.
 


malawi_glenn said:
hmm I have simulated pi0 decay produced in pp collisions, and that gamma-spectrum is very continuous.

It's strongly peaked in the pi0 rest frame, but they are 'never' at rest in a pp collision. I think you'll find it's the intrinsic pi0 boost which produces the spectrum.
 


Yes of course it is the pi0 boost ;-)
 

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