Why the Six Generators of the Restrict Lorentz Group

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The discussion centers around the generators of the restricted Lorentz group, specifically why there are six generators corresponding to three rotation generators (angular momentum) and three boost generators. Participants explore the mathematical and conceptual foundations of this topic, including the nature of the Lorentz group and its relationship to the Poincaré group.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Lorentz group consists of linear transformations that preserve the origin, while the Poincaré group includes translations and does not preserve the origin.
  • One participant identifies four potential areas of concern regarding the generators: the number of independent parameters, their interpretation as boosts and rotations, the topology of the group, and the commutation relations satisfied by the generators.
  • Another participant emphasizes the interpretation of the parameters as boosts and rotations, seeking clarification on this aspect.
  • It is mentioned that the number of independent parameters is derived from the condition \(\Lambda^T\eta\Lambda=\eta\), with three parameters corresponding to rotations and three to velocity changes.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and interest in different aspects of the topic, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation and implications of the generators of the restricted Lorentz group.

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Some limitations include the complexity of the topology and commutation relations, which are noted to require more extensive discussion than provided in the thread.

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This discussion may be useful for those interested in theoretical physics, particularly in understanding the mathematical structure of the Lorentz group and its implications in the context of relativity and quantum field theory.

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Why the six generator of the restrict lorentz group are the three rotation's generator(angular momentum) and the three boost's generator?
 
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The Lorentz group is a group of linear transforms, so it preserves the origin. If you want a more general transform that includes translations as well as rotations and boosts, then you want the Poincare group. That is a group of affine transforms, so it doesn't preserve the origin.
 
martyf said:
Why the six generator of the restrict lorentz group are the three rotation's generator(angular momentum) and the three boost's generator?

What exactly is it that you would like to know? There are at least four different things that could be your main concern: The number of independent parameters, the interpretation of the parameters as boosts and rotations, the topology of the group (i.e. what well-known set it can be continuously and bijectively mapped onto), and the commutation relations satisfied by the generators.

The number of independent parameters follows immediately from the condition [itex]\Lambda^T\eta\Lambda=\eta[/itex]. The fact that 3 parameters correspond to rotation parameters follow from the fact that restricted Lorentz transformations that leave [itex]x^0[/itex] unchanged are rotations (the components of such a [itex]\Lambda[/itex] that aren't on the 0th row or 0th column form a 3x3 orthogonal matrix). The fact that 3 parameters correspond to a velocity change follow from the fact that [itex]\Lambda[/itex] takes the time axis to some other straight line to the origin. (The slope of that line can be interpreted as a speed, and its projection onto the x-y-z hyperplane defines a direction). The topology stuff and the commutation relations involve too much typing for me to include those details here. You can find them in lots of books, e.g. Weinberg's QFT book (vol.1, the appendix to chapter 2).
 
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Thank's!
I wanted to know the imterpretation of the parameters as boosts and rotations!
 

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