Why the statistics for a real gas are not quantum in nature?

In summary, a gas of bosons or fermion particles follows a particular quantum statistics. However, at room temperature, diatomic gases such as H2 behave classically and follow a classical distribution statistics. This is due to the fact that only the translational and rotational degrees of freedom are relevant at this temperature, while the vibrational modes are irrelevant. Monatomic gases like He also behave classically at room temperature.
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If the gas molecules are either bosons or fermions, why the gas statistics is classical?
A gas of bosons or fermion particles follows a particular quantum statistics. Then why a molecular gas (say, H2) follows a classical distribution statistics? Is it not the case that the molecules should be indistinguishable one from another and be either bosons or fermions? What is exactly the condition which allows a classical statistics?
 
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MichPod said:
why a molecular gas (say, H2) follows a classical distribution statistics?

What makes you think it does?
 
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PeterDonis said:
What makes you think it does?

Lack of education, I guess. :-)
Case resolved, thank you for the hint.
 
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True, and quantum mechanics tells you, which degrees of freedom are relevant at a given temperature. E.g., at room temperature the vibrational modes of a diatomic gas are irrelevant and only the translational and rotational ones play a role.
 
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DrClaude said:
At room temperature, diatomic gases behave classically.

So do monatomic gases like He.
 
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1. Why are the statistics for a real gas not quantum in nature?

The statistics for a real gas are not quantum in nature because real gases are made up of particles that have mass and volume, unlike quantum particles which are considered to be point particles. Therefore, the classical statistical mechanics approach is more suitable for describing the behavior of real gases.

2. What is the difference between classical and quantum statistics?

The main difference between classical and quantum statistics is that classical statistics is based on the assumption that particles are distinguishable and can be described by their exact position and momentum, while quantum statistics takes into account the indistinguishability of particles and describes them in terms of probability distributions.

3. Can quantum mechanics be used to describe the behavior of real gases?

While quantum mechanics can be used to describe the behavior of individual particles in a gas, it is not suitable for describing the behavior of a large number of particles in a real gas. This is because the interactions between particles in a real gas are too complex to be accurately described by quantum mechanics.

4. What are the limitations of using classical statistics for real gases?

The main limitation of using classical statistics for real gases is that it does not take into account the quantum nature of particles. This means that it cannot accurately describe phenomena such as quantum tunneling and Bose-Einstein condensation, which are important in understanding the behavior of certain gases at low temperatures.

5. Are there any situations where classical statistics fail to accurately describe the behavior of real gases?

Yes, there are situations where classical statistics fail to accurately describe the behavior of real gases. This includes low temperature and high pressure conditions, where the quantum nature of particles becomes more significant and classical statistics becomes less accurate. In these cases, quantum statistical mechanics must be used instead.

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