Why V = IR Can't Be Used to Define p.d.

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The discussion revolves around the application of the equation V = IR in defining potential difference (p.d.) and its limitations, particularly in the context of ohmic and non-ohmic materials.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why V = IR cannot define p.d., suggesting that current can be zero while a potential difference exists. Others question the definition of p.d. and its relationship to energy per unit charge.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of potential difference and its distinction from electromotive force (EMF). Some guidance has been provided regarding the definitions and contexts in which V = IR applies, particularly in relation to ohmic and non-linear devices.

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There is a mention of the teacher's perspective on independent and dependent variables, which remains unclear to some participants. The discussion also highlights the need for clarity on the definitions of p.d. and EMF.

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Homework Statement


V = IR is used to define resistance. why can't it be used to define p.d.?


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i suggested that sometimes the current can be zero, but there is a p.d. so the equation does not hold.

but my teacher says that the answer is more towards the concept of variables, independent and dependent. i can't understand how?

thanks
 
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Can you please tell us what p.d is ? It is not obvious what you are referring to.
 
errm p.d refers to the potential difference between two points.
 
V=IR applies only to ohmic materials. There are a lot of devices (known as non-linear devices) for which V=IR doesn't hold ie. the potential difference across the device is not some unknown constant multiplied to the current through it. I don't get what your teacher is trying to say.
 
PD is the amount of energy per unit charge used between two points in a circuit. compare this to EMF which is the amount of energy provided to unit charge between two points. PD is across a resistor or any component that uses energy - bulb, wire, motor.

Currrent is zero when there is no PD across a component, however there is emf. consider electric motor. EMF provides current. motor moves and generates back EMF which provides back current. sum of current in the wire is reduced, so accordingly(ohm's law), PD is reduced - but the EMF of motor is there along with back EMF as this is a motor that is turning and simultaneously generating electricity as well.

make sure you know PD is joules per coulomb taken by a component, EMF is joules per coulomb given to a component - both are VOLTS.
 
thnks:)
 

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