Why would a girl ignore your calls?

[Antiphon]

And, and, and, be sure to call them all "prime chicks". Broads are really into that too.

Actually, I should have said "prime slices of a**" because that's what's wrong with the boy- not enough testosterone in his thought process. Your post shows that that kind of thinking is alien to most women. Like it or not though it's how healthy men should think.

 

[lisab]

I'll think "just being polite" fits best. I don't know why she's saying sorry quite a number of times ("Sorry I was busy", "Sorry I was being...").

This is one of my pet peeves - sorry, sorry, sorry. I think it has become simply a space filler word, just fluff, in common language.

 

[mheslep]

My all time favorite example of what not to do, and also an example imo that, even knowing better, everybody goes to far regardless at some point; hopefully the pain provides the gain of a lesson learned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0PUrNwvvBk

 

[DanP]

And this is all speculation, we don't know what's really going on - you should talk to her properly about it before making your judgements.

Ye ...

recall this line "Sorry I was busy" and pair it with "Ill explain everything when Ill meet you". Run when you hear any of them :P You are being stringed.

 

[cronxeh]

My all time favorite example of what not to do, and also an example imo that, even knowing better, everybody goes to far regardless at some point; hopefully the pain provides the gain of a lesson learned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0PUrNwvvBk

Oh that is super lame. I'd not even bother leaving a voicemail, that's just stupid.

 

[mheslep]

Oh that is super lame. I'd not even bother leaving a voicemail, that's just stupid.

Seen the film? If so, ever walked that walk?

 

[cronxeh]

Seen the film? If so, ever walked that walk?

No, and hells no.

 

[Dembadon]

Actually, I should have said "prime slices of a**" because that's what's wrong with the boy- not enough testosterone in his thought process. Your post shows that that kind of thinking is alien to most women. Like it or not though it's how healthy men should think.

Since you've given no sign as to whether or not you're joking, I'll assume you're serious.

After you define what you mean by the word "healthy," can you please provide the results of a study showing high scores (in the "healthy" category, as you've defined it) from men who sexually objectify women?

 

[DanP]

Since you've given no sign as to whether or not you're joking, I'll assume you're serious.

After you define what you mean by the word "healthy," can you please provide the results of a study showing high scores (in the "healthy" category, as you've defined it) from men who sexually objectify women?

that's pretty far fetched, alluding that men with high testosterone "sexually objectify women"

 

[DanP]

It is not false. Your experience may differ, however. You are either very lucky, or very young.

I guess you too have a pretty different view of "baggage". Some minor trust issues which can be worked out and other things like this are really not what I consider baggage. Try never-ending drama, being in love with her ex while trying to build a new life, cheating permanently on her husband but never able to leave him, substance abuses, women so jealous that they physically hit you when you talk to another women, lie about abysmal credit, sometimes kids from previous marriages ... I could go on about what I think as baggage.

I don't consider myself very lucky, but I can honestly tell you that I was satisfied in most of my relationships, and *none* of them let me with such a bitter taste in my mouth to think at women as clinically cases and ask for 20 pages CVs before dating them or whatever. I liked someone, I've hit on her and courted her. I've been happy sometimes. I've been hurt sometimes. Just the rules of the game =).

If I where a lucky man, I would have had what Turbo or Astronuc have in their life. I do not. However, girls made me happy, the balance is positive.

And yes, I agree with you, I am still a very young man. Any man under 50 should consider himself very young. I pity the fools who feel old in their 30s.

 

[DaveC426913]

I could go on about what I think as baggage.

OK, now you're speaking a little more reasonably, instead of with sweeping claims.

And yes, I agree with you, I am still a very young man. Any man under 50 should consider himself very young. I pity the fools who feel old in their 30s.

It is not about "considering" onesself young. It's about the mileage. My suggestion was that you were young enough to not have experienced as much in the way of baggage, and so had a comparatively simplistic view of it.

 

[GeorginaS]

OK, now you're speaking a little more reasonably, instead of with sweeping claims.



It is not about "considering" onesself young. It's about the mileage. My suggestion was that you were young enough to not have experienced as much in the way of baggage, and so had a comparatively simplistic view of it.

What Dave said.

 

[DanP]

What Dave said.

You are pretty much mistaken. I am 37, and I dated on and off (save for pauses for longer term relationships) for over 20 years now. I am just not so inclined to see life as an asylum :P Its probably a simplistic way of life, treating ppl in my life as "normal". But it works, Simple works. Up to you guys if you want to be "complex"

 

[cronxeh]

You are pretty much mistaken. I am 37, and I dated on and off (save for pauses for longer term relationships) for over 20 years now. I am just not so inclined to see life as an asylum :P

Have you met Chris Hansen?

 

[DanP]

Have you met Chris Hansen?

I have no idea who is that guy. Remember, I do not live in US.

 

[Dembadon]

that's pretty far fetched, alluding that men with high testosterone "sexually objectify women"

I didn't allude to anything having to do with a man's testosterone levels; I asked the poster to define how he is using the word "healthy."

Also, calling a woman (or anyone) "a prime slice of @$$," is sexual objectification, Dan.

 

[DaveC426913]

You are pretty much mistaken.

You keep making these categorical assertions, as if you have access to some truth that others do not.

And that too is common in youngsters.

 

[JaredJames]

You keep making these categorical assertions, as if you have access to some truth that others do not.

And that too is common in youngsters.

Sounds like you're calling him immature for a 37 year old Mr C!

 

[GeorginaS]

You are pretty much mistaken. I am 37, and I dated on and off (save for pauses for longer term relationships) for over 20 years now. I am just not so inclined to see life as an asylum :P Its probably a simplistic way of life, treating ppl in my life as "normal". But it works, Simple works. Up to you guys if you want to be "complex"

I'd be interested to know what you are asserting Dave is "pretty much mistaken" about. You didn't argue anything he actually wrote.

 

[DanP]

I'd be interested to know what you are asserting Dave is "pretty much mistaken" about. You didn't argue anything he actually wrote.

About "baggage". You guys seem to insist that everyone who lives is a mini-psycho. Sorry, but that is simply not true. But then again, it seems common in old man to think like that.

 

[DanP]

You keep making these categorical assertions, as if you have access to some truth that others do not.

And that too is common in youngsters.

That bothers you Dave ? Smile, life is simple.

 

[DaveC426913]

You guys seem to insist that everyone who lives is a mini-psycho.

No, it's you who's insisting that.

You are the one who is equating baggage with near-psychotic. I speak just for myself (and presume to include Georgina) saying baggage is very common and pretty much a part of life.

See?

 

[DanP]

No, it's you who's insisting that.

You are the one who is equating baggage with near-psychotic. I speak just for myself (and presume to include Georgina) saying baggage is very common and pretty much a part of life.

See?

Wrong PoV. You insist that bagge is part of a normal person, when it is not. You insist on labeling normal as a person with "baggage".

See ?

 

[DaveC426913]

That bothers you Dave ? Smile, life is simple.

It amuses me; it reminds me of my kids, who also have fairly black & white opinions and tend to speak of "wrong" and "false".

 

[DanP]

It amuses me; it reminds me of my kids, who also have fairly black & white opinions and tend to speak of "wrong" and "false".

So yeah, I'm opinionated. Sue me ?

 

[DaveC426913]

Wrong PoV. You insist that bagge is part of a normal person, when it is not. You insist on labeling normal as a person with "baggage".

See ?

I don't insist; I simply have experience of this.


Here's the trouble with your stance:

I claim normally, people have baggage; you claim normally, people do not.

With my stance, both yours and my experiences are valid. (I know lots of people with baggage, you know lots of people that do not.)

With your stance, only your own experiences can be valid. (You knows lots of people who don;t have baggage, yet my experience must be false.)

I can easily falsify your claim because it is more sweeping than you have any business claiming. It excludes other possible experiences.

 

[DanP]

I don't insist; I simply have experience of this.

Maybe you are oversensitive, hence exaggerating this baggage ? Its common in old man. One may see problems where there are none.

I can easily falsify your claim because it is more sweeping than you have any business claiming. It excludes other possible experiences.

Really ? Please do present the proof :P

 

[DaveC426913]

Maybe you are oversensitive, hence exaggerating this baggage ? Its common in old man. One may see problems where there are none.

Why would you assume I'm the one calling it baggage? People know they carry baggage.

Really ? Please do present the proof :P

You claim that people having baggage is pretty much false. All I have to do is demonstrate that I (and Georgina) do indeed know a significant number of people that have baggage and your claim is laid low.

Note that the corollary is not true; you claiming that you do not know a significant number of people who have baggage does not weaken my claim.

You claim tries to speak for me; my claim does not try to speak for you.

 

[cronxeh]

Ok we need to get back to the original thread here. The girl is ignoring phone calls. Guy is persistent, I get it. What about if she is just too scared of a real relationship? What if she doesn't want to settle, feels like she is losing her freedom and independence and just wants to have fun? There might nothing be wrong with the guy, or the girl, its just that if she was to get into a relationship she knows she'll stay, and it will be a long term thing.

What if she is avoiding you because she realizes that with you the search is over.. that the dream of a knight in shiny armor is over and she found him, and its you - the retard in tinfoil?

 

[DaveC426913]

Ok we need to get back to the original thread here.

Really? I thought we'd agreed that he needs to talk to someone about this unhealthy infatuation? And that further hashing of it here would probably just make it worse.