Why would density increase when Poisson's ratio > 0.5?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between density and Poisson's ratio, specifically when Poisson's ratio exceeds 0.5. It is established that for Poisson's ratios less than 0.5, density decreases as volume decreases under tension. The calculations presented indicate that for a Poisson ratio of 0.5, volumetric strain equals zero, leading to no change in volume or density. The confusion arises from misinterpretations of volume changes associated with different Poisson's ratios during tension and compression.

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Does anyone understand why density would increase when the poisson ratio is greater than 0.5 as indicated in this slide from my professor:

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Does this density increase apply to a system undergoing tension or compression or both?
 
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You have to think about what Poisson's ration means ... how does a compression affect volume for different Poisson's Ratios?
 
Simon Bridge said:
You have to think about what Poisson's ration means ... how does a compression affect volume for different Poisson's Ratios?

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Alright so here calculated what the volume change would be for when Poisson's ratio < 0.5. It told me that the volume would decrease which implies that the density increases. But according to the lecture notes this is not true. Instead when the ratio is < 0.5 the density decreases...

Note: I also calculated for the volume when Poisson's ratio = 0.5, which according to the notes there should be no volume change. But in my calculations I found there is a volume change...

What am I doing wrong?
 
theBEAST said:
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Alright so here calculated what the volume change would be for when Poisson's ratio < 0.5. It told me that the volume would decrease which implies that the density increases. But according to the lecture notes this is not true. Instead when the ratio is < 0.5 the density decreases...

Note: I also calculated for the volume when Poisson's ratio = 0.5, which according to the notes there should be no volume change. But in my calculations I found there is a volume change...

What am I doing wrong?

Let a bar be stretched by εx. For a Poisson ratio of 0.5, the strains in the y and z directions are:

εy=-0.5 εx

εz=-0.5 εx

The volumetric strain is the sum of the three linear strains, and is equal to zero.

Same problem with Poisson ratio = 0.3

εx + εy + εz = 0.4 εx

So the volume increases, and the density decreases when a bar is stretched under tension and the material has a Poisson ratio of <0.5
 

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